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Platform Love: Getting Along

We did a great panel yesterday at LeWeb8 called: “Platform Love: Getting Along”.

I had been planning and working on this panel for six months, ever since Loic and Cathy Brooks asked me to do it - during the summer.  The timing was perfect because MySpace had just announced their MySpace ID platform at the show, while  Facebook Connect and Google Friend Connect both shipped last week.

And on top of all that, Microsoft shipped a major upgrade to the Windows live suite of apps and services - and SixApart had shipped a product called TypePad Connect - so every single panel member had made a major announcement and was shipping their “open technologies” - within the past few weeks.

What transpired was a fairly comprehensive panel discussion on the state of open platforms in the web today (even though we would have liked to have had more time to go into the positioning of OpenID as either a technology or a solution) and other ideas on how these platforms can connect together. However we simply didn’t have enough time.

So here’s the panel - I think it went really well:

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During the panel we triangulated between the interests of the major platform vendors and their business models and agenda - with that of “what’s best for end-users.”  We gave the audience an overview of the  various approaches to open social networking - Facebook (highly integrated experience, 98% open), OpenSocial (a set of APIs for providing Facebook ‘like’ apps) and Live Mesh (which is a synchronization, cloud computing/local server mesh approach.)

I tried to give each approach it’s own day in court and as far as I’m concerned, I think all three of these approaches can play together and work with each other - to create a viable, happy ‘open mesh’ of inter-conncted networks.  I know that’s an idealistic dream, but all the pieces of the puzzle are coming together.

We even got heckled from the audience by Michael Arrington, who claimed that being an open platform isn’t always the best user experience and that maybe Facebook was gonna win cause it WAS closed.

Michael also chastised me for being too nice to Facebook (he’d claimed earlier I was compromised) so I came back to him with this retort:

“We have a new president and he’s shown us that through working together with people, we can achieve good.  The old school Republican attitude was to call out Facebook for what they’re doing WRONG, but our new attitude is to work together with folks to move forward.  We owe allot to Facebook, as we do to Doug Engelbardt, and we all make our contributions to what ‘open’ is.”

The panel started off by identifying “Open is the new Black” as the latest trend permeating the major platforms today.  We went over the ‘Open Stack” and what each of the panelist’s companies define as “open”.

Dave Morin of Facebook informed us that Facebook had 130M users worldwide, 650,000 platform developers (from 180 countries) and 14.5B page views - a month.  But when I asked him how Facebook connects into the open stack and which of the layers of the stack Facebook would connect to - he didn’t have an answer.  [NOTE: Privately we know that Dave Morin supports us, but he's not the boss at Facebook.]

What I WAS able to get out of Dave Morin was that we’ll be able to get access to the Facebook feed - whch we don’t today.  Then David Recordon eloquently pointed out that building on top of open technologies (like our Open Stack) is better for developers and end-users.  David is on the Board of the OpenID Foundation and there is movement to morph the OpenID brand into a full solution.

Max Engel then explained what MySpace announced (MySpaceID) and how MySpace users are used to have their ID as a URL (myspace.com/marc) and that fits right into the OpenID approach.

Dave Glazer then explained the difference between OpenID and OpenSocial (Glazer is on the board of the  OpenSocial foundation.)  OpenSocial brings Facebook app functionality - to “the rest of us”.

We then had a high level Microsoft executive named Jeff Hansen who explained how Live Mesh is a key component in their future and how it is a gateway technology to create and maintain symmetrical synchronization of one’s data and social graph - across a wide range of devices and your desktop.  By implementing two-way APIs, Microsoft will enable any of us to access any Microsoft’s customer’s profile data (or any other implementation of these ‘live mesh’ protocols) and then put it right back from whence it came.

Then panel covers all the important issues of our industry today.

Check it out!

Date: Thursday, December 11th, 2008 | Time: 12:17 am
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  1. Good boys, very. Joined their… err.. love! LOL in front of society and crisis for a sake of the Internet.

  2. Good boys, very. Joined their… err.. love! LOL in front of society and crisis for a sake of the Internet.