So where’s the Identi.ca of Gnip?
The second show, first episode of theSocialWebTV is up - with my boys John McCrea, David Recordon and Joseph “the fastest gun on the web (which it comes to implementing these technologies)” Smarr.
In what they call their episode #1 Identi.ca and Gnip are explained and a slight update to day 57 of the Facebook Friends List hostage crisis. Certainly this week’s upcoming F8 will be quite a scene.
I can’t wait to ask a question!
But what’s MOST burning in my head right now is the genius of Gnip and Identi.ca. They both have appeared at the exact right time, with Identi.ca implementing what I have for LONG been asking for - an open source, DNS-like Twitter clone, which anyone can setup and run. THAT’s what I’ve been talking about - and it establishes a model of federated infrastructire so we all can’t get burned like what has happened with Twitter.
This same model should be applied to ALL infrastructure in our future. You’re not gonna store all your email JUST in Gmail - are you? You’re not gonna rely upon Amazon exclusively for storage or computing power? That’s why God invented Hadoop.
So then it doesn’t take too much of a stretch to look at the NEXT big infrastructure play - this time it’s called Gnip - and the paranoia starts to surface - again. “Is Plaxo and SixApart EXCLUSIVELY relying upon Gnip for their aggregator update pings? Or do they fall back to how they were doing it before - if Gnip goes down.”
And “how much does Gnip cost - anyway?”
And it also doesn’t take too much of a stretch to then ask the question: “Where’s the open source version of Gnip - so that OTHERS can run it - and we don’t have to be 100% reliant upon ONE vendor’s implementation of a very coolio idea - and core part of our future infrastructure?”
Ping has come a long way since Dave Winer invented it for Weblogs.com. Matt Mullenweg developed something called ping-o-matic - which kind of took ping to the next level and made ping general purpose. Now we have a VC funded, well staffed, very serious play which provides ping infrasucture for BOTH data sources and data consumer platforms/DLAs (digital lifestyle aggregators) and solves the scalability problem for activity streams and aggregating aggregators in one fail swoop.
Everybody wants to get their updates as fast as possible and with the large number of sites to monitor and the huge amount of data that’s getting aggregated - as we speak - Gnip lets the data consumer sites know when an update has happened (the ping) instead of forcing every data consumer to ping every data provider - every what? 60 seconds? :05 minutes? 1 hour?
So this 1st episode rocks - I HIGHLY recommend you check it out.
BEST part by far - these three guys have spent too much time plowing through boring video interviews, so they get to the point, don’t linger, provide links on screen and jump points in the Viddler video player and produce the entire show in under 17:00 minutes. The only thing I could criticize is the audio quality, which will obviously get fixed with the simple addition of a decent mic.
Insider insights:
- both David and Joseph are probably at the exclusive, closed doors Foo camp scene right now - discussing these very topics.
- notice the “Bill of Rights for Users of the Social Web” behind John. We all helped create that last August/Sept.
- did you hear David mutter under his breath “just like growing up in the 70’s, it’s not very good” - you see both David and Joseph are under 30 and……….. well it’s just another case of ageism if you ask me.
- NO mention of Pownce hottie Leah Culver on the cover the MIT Review magazine they talk about and hold up.- Gnip Gnop is totally coolio. I wonder what other startups will name themselves after old toys. How ’bout “Rockem Sockum” or maybe “Slinky”.
Right on dudes - see you next week at F8.
Heh, thanks for the comments, Marc! Since you asked, a) no we don’t rely exclusively on gnip for updates, we still crawl ourselves like normal, but gnip gives us a “hint” of when to crawl in many cases, so it’s basically like “polling with a good premonition of when to poll” when we use gnip in combination, and b) gnip doesn’t cost anything for publishers or consumers. They haven’t articulated a business model yet, but it’s clear they’re starting out by doing something useful and getting in the middle of the action, which seems like a sensible first move. And I believe David is at FOO, but I was instead at the annual Plaxo retreat in Costanoa, though I did wear my SGFOO shirt there.
Heh, thanks for the comments, Marc! Since you asked, a) no we don’t rely exclusively on gnip for updates, we still crawl ourselves like normal, but gnip gives us a “hint” of when to crawl in many cases, so it’s basically like “polling with a good premonition of when to poll” when we use gnip in combination, and b) gnip doesn’t cost anything for publishers or consumers. They haven’t articulated a business model yet, but it’s clear they’re starting out by doing something useful and getting in the middle of the action, which seems like a sensible first move. And I believe David is at FOO, but I was instead at the annual Plaxo retreat in Costanoa, though I did wear my SGFOO shirt there.
Heh, thanks for the comments, Marc! Since you asked, a) no we don’t rely exclusively on gnip for updates, we still crawl ourselves like normal, but gnip gives us a “hint” of when to crawl in many cases, so it’s basically like “polling with a good premonition of when to poll” when we use gnip in combination, and b) gnip doesn’t cost anything for publishers or consumers. They haven’t articulated a business model yet, but it’s clear they’re starting out by doing something useful and getting in the middle of the action, which seems like a sensible first move. And I believe David is at FOO, but I was instead at the annual Plaxo retreat in Costanoa, though I did wear my SGFOO shirt there.
Thanks, Marc. Yep, the audio mix was off. We’ll re-do it this week and upload a better version.
We really appreciate your feeback and encouragement.
Indeed, the coming few weeks may be very BIG!
Thanks, Marc. Yep, the audio mix was off. We’ll re-do it this week and upload a better version.
We really appreciate your feeback and encouragement.
Indeed, the coming few weeks may be very BIG!
Thanks, Marc. Yep, the audio mix was off. We’ll re-do it this week and upload a better version.
We really appreciate your feeback and encouragement.
Indeed, the coming few weeks may be very BIG!
Thanks for sharing Marc. I’m loving what I’m seeing so far from identi.ca and this is the first I’ve heard of gnip.
Small correction: David says “Despite growing up in the 70s, he’s not very good at it.”
Thanks for sharing Marc. I’m loving what I’m seeing so far from identi.ca and this is the first I’ve heard of gnip.
Small correction: David says “Despite growing up in the 70s, he’s not very good at it.”
Thanks for sharing Marc. I’m loving what I’m seeing so far from identi.ca and this is the first I’ve heard of gnip.
Small correction: David says “Despite growing up in the 70s, he’s not very good at it.”
I see an alarming trend here where developers will not get paid to do what they love. It’s already happening, and it’s not just because Indians, Russians, and Chinese can code (their days of unemployment will come). So should kids study to be lawyers? The doctor business has already been blown to bits. Who’s going to have all this free time to use the social web? Wannabee rock stars?
Better spend your time in acting classes kiddies. Not playing video games and not wasting time on the social web.
I see an alarming trend here where developers will not get paid to do what they love. It’s already happening, and it’s not just because Indians, Russians, and Chinese can code (their days of unemployment will come). So should kids study to be lawyers? The doctor business has already been blown to bits. Who’s going to have all this free time to use the social web? Wannabee rock stars?
Better spend your time in acting classes kiddies. Not playing video games and not wasting time on the social web.
I see an alarming trend here where developers will not get paid to do what they love. It’s already happening, and it’s not just because Indians, Russians, and Chinese can code (their days of unemployment will come). So should kids study to be lawyers? The doctor business has already been blown to bits. Who’s going to have all this free time to use the social web? Wannabee rock stars?
Better spend your time in acting classes kiddies. Not playing video games and not wasting time on the social web.
Digital lifestyle aggravation.
Digital lifestyle aggravation.
Digital lifestyle aggravation.