Comments on: How to build the mesh - #4: the Live Web http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web Digital Lifestyle Aggregation - helping to establish open source infrastructure Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:05:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » I do not compromise http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-246083 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » I do not compromise Fri, 16 May 2008 21:02:25 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-246083 [...] the Live Web - we can’t live without my Twitter, IM, FriendFeed, VoIP, Second Life, mobile phone and [...] […] the Live Web - we can’t live without my Twitter, IM, FriendFeed, VoIP, Second Life, mobile phone and […]

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the Open Mesh http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245706 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the Open Mesh Fri, 02 May 2008 19:15:58 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245706 [...] [4] - the Live Web [...] […] [4] - the Live Web […]

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the mesh - #8: Common Constructs, Verbs and Pages http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245694 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the mesh - #8: Common Constructs, Verbs and Pages Fri, 02 May 2008 16:58:36 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245694 [...] set of constructs are in the area of - #4 - Live Web - message (a short blip of communication, can also be used to refer to private emails inside of [...] […] set of constructs are in the area of - #4 - Live Web - message (a short blip of communication, can also be used to refer to private emails inside of […]

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the mesh - #7: Infrastructure http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245665 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the mesh - #7: Infrastructure Thu, 01 May 2008 23:31:57 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245665 [...] areas of “How to build the mesh” and what I was hoping for - paid off. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [...] […] areas of “How to build the mesh” and what I was hoping for - paid off. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], […]

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the mesh - #5: Tools http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245624 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » How to build the mesh - #5: Tools Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:46:55 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245624 [...] Tools are a key aspect of my design of this series of “How to build the mesh” blog posts and we can now see how all the pieces of the puzzle can come together. As long as we [...] […] Tools are a key aspect of my design of this series of “How to build the mesh” blog posts and we can now see how all the pieces of the puzzle can come together. As long as we […]

]]> By: Blaine Cook http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245623 Blaine Cook Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:42:20 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245623 Hey there, just a few people to add to your "people to watch" --- hopefully myself (I built all the jabber infrastructure at Twitter, and built a prototype federation model with Jaiku before I left) and definitely Ralph Meijer who has been long advocating and designing the Jabber PubSub specs. Peter Saint-Andre is the overseer of the XMPP specs, and a great guy besides. The Jive and ejabberd (Process-One) folks are doing some great things, too. The one point that I see missing from your discussion that's absolutely critical is addressability. It's implicit, I think, in your discussion, but it's worthwhile drawing it out. What we're going to see in the next year or so is a shift from social networks as walled gardens --- I think of it as the transition from email-as-AOL-and-CompuServe to email-as-federated-by-SMTP. Hey there, just a few people to add to your “people to watch” — hopefully myself (I built all the jabber infrastructure at Twitter, and built a prototype federation model with Jaiku before I left) and definitely Ralph Meijer who has been long advocating and designing the Jabber PubSub specs. Peter Saint-Andre is the overseer of the XMPP specs, and a great guy besides. The Jive and ejabberd (Process-One) folks are doing some great things, too.

The one point that I see missing from your discussion that’s absolutely critical is addressability. It’s implicit, I think, in your discussion, but it’s worthwhile drawing it out. What we’re going to see in the next year or so is a shift from social networks as walled gardens — I think of it as the transition from email-as-AOL-and-CompuServe to email-as-federated-by-SMTP.

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » My summer project - works-in-progress http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245613 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » My summer project - works-in-progress Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:44:14 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245613 [...] « How to build the mesh - #4: the Live Web [...] […] « How to build the mesh - #4: the Live Web […]

]]> By: kip http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245611 kip Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:42:32 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/04/how-to-build-the-mesh-4-the-live-web#comment-245611 Nice, I like the concept of "the Live Web". Don't forget in your analysis the real desire and necessity to "go offline", either for short periods of a lack of connectivity, or longer sessions of user initiated "unplugging". The Live Web will enable, but it will also tether. Google is pushing for free and open tools, precisely so that is compelling to be connected early and often. Will part of our "data portability", our ownership of our experience, allow us to unplug as well as plug in anywhere and everywhere? Will we be able to catch up? Will our online experience suffer holes of inactivity, or will the Live Web "fill in" our experiences? Interested to continue following the conversation, Marc. Good post. Nice, I like the concept of “the Live Web”. Don’t forget in your analysis the real desire and necessity to “go offline”, either for short periods of a lack of connectivity, or longer sessions of user initiated “unplugging”.

The Live Web will enable, but it will also tether. Google is pushing for free and open tools, precisely so that is compelling to be connected early and often. Will part of our “data portability”, our ownership of our experience, allow us to unplug as well as plug in anywhere and everywhere? Will we be able to catch up? Will our online experience suffer holes of inactivity, or will the Live Web “fill in” our experiences?

Interested to continue following the conversation, Marc. Good post.

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