Comments on: Facebook extends their lock-in strategy http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy Digital Lifestyle Aggregation - helping to establish open source infrastructure Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:12:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Another tale of Facebook account suspension http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244480 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Another tale of Facebook account suspension Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:38:18 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244480 [...] Kelli also had an active Facebook account - which was recently suspended cause - guess why?  She wasn’t an individual, she was an entity and [...] [...] Kelli also had an active Facebook account - which was recently suspended cause - guess why?  She wasn’t an individual, she was an entity and [...]

]]> By: David Fox http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244382 David Fox Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:55:13 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244382 I'm late to this thread but it sure is timely for a cautionary note: Facebook emailed KT on Sunday: "Your account is closed. "Go use Pages...oh...and there's no way to move your friends." huh??? Kelli had invested a couple of hundred hours over the past six months developing a following. Then with one computer generated email...wham! Door is closed. If this is all 'free and open' then: - How was the decision made? - Who made it? - Who can she go to to protest the decision? (Customer Service sure isn't being helpful) - Why not give a warning first? - Why can't she move her friends? This is how people who have put in serious time and effort building on Facebook can be treated? I’m late to this thread but it sure is timely for a cautionary note:

Facebook emailed KT on Sunday: “Your account is closed. “Go use Pages…oh…and there’s no way to move your friends.” huh???

Kelli had invested a couple of hundred hours over the past six months developing a following. Then with one computer generated email…wham! Door is closed.

If this is all ‘free and open’ then:
- How was the decision made?
- Who made it?
- Who can she go to to protest the decision? (Customer Service sure isn’t being helpful)
- Why not give a warning first?
- Why can’t she move her friends?

This is how people who have put in serious time and effort building on Facebook can be treated?

]]> By: AK http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244355 AK Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:03:18 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244355 As someone far from the epicenter of silicon valley - I have to say that I appreciate Marc Cantors strident if perhaps sometime erroneous (who can cast a stone here?) support for Open standards .... his voice is one of the few that I can say consistently resonates on themes that are good for the web and good for its users. I completely agree with Marc - take a look and see how many young Mexican kids are on Facebook as compared to Hi5, or Brazilians on Orkut, or really anyone outside silicon valley on Twitter. With the help of passionate folks like Marc - we just might see all these apps/platforms play together someday. Keep up the good work, and keep the passion, if it means you have to bust out the flamethrower to burn back some weeds occasionally ... what grows in in its place will justify the action. peace. As someone far from the epicenter of silicon valley - I have to say that I appreciate Marc Cantors strident if perhaps sometime erroneous (who can cast a stone here?) support for Open standards …. his voice is one of the few that I can say consistently resonates on themes that are good for the web and good for its users. I completely agree with Marc - take a look and see how many young Mexican kids are on Facebook as compared to Hi5, or Brazilians on Orkut, or really anyone outside silicon valley on Twitter. With the help of passionate folks like Marc - we just might see all these apps/platforms play together someday. Keep up the good work, and keep the passion, if it means you have to bust out the flamethrower to burn back some weeds occasionally … what grows in in its place will justify the action.

peace.

]]> By: dave mcclure http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244333 dave mcclure Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:57:47 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244333 >>who Jeremiah is gonna call Dave on this bullshit? >> Exclusive FOOCamps? Where’s the open social networking sessions? >>Where’s the inclusionary blogosphere sprit? Marc: the "inclusionary blogosphere spirit" comes from people who honestly and earnestly discuss a subject, and earn the respect & interest of their peers. it certainly doesn't come from flaming the fuck out of someone with incorrect facts, bullshit accusations, and complaints about exclusivity. perhaps the reason you don't get invited to Foo Camps is more about your crappy attitude on matters like this, and less about the technical merits / proprietary lock-in vs openness of your complaints. just perhaps. >>who Jeremiah is gonna call Dave on this bullshit?
>> Exclusive FOOCamps? Where’s the open social networking sessions?
>>Where’s the inclusionary blogosphere sprit?

Marc: the “inclusionary blogosphere spirit” comes from people who honestly and earnestly discuss a subject, and earn the respect & interest of their peers. it certainly doesn’t come from flaming the fuck out of someone with incorrect facts, bullshit accusations, and complaints about exclusivity.

perhaps the reason you don’t get invited to Foo Camps is more about your crappy attitude on matters like this, and less about the technical merits / proprietary lock-in vs openness of your complaints.

just perhaps.

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Open Letter to DAve McClure: "Where are the open panels at Web 2.0 & Social Graphing?" http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244300 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Open Letter to DAve McClure: "Where are the open panels at Web 2.0 & Social Graphing?" Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:32:35 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244300 [...] I included Dave McClure in my post on Facebook’s close platform - and he commented back, asking me to do my research. [...] [...] I included Dave McClure in my post on Facebook’s close platform - and he commented back, asking me to do my research. [...]

]]> By: Marc Canter http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244299 Marc Canter Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:56:28 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244299 If not me - who Jeremiah is gonna call Dave on this bullshit? Exclusive FOOCamps? Where's the open social networking sessions? Where's the inclusionary blogosphere sprit? If not me - who Jeremiah is gonna call Dave on this bullshit? Exclusive FOOCamps? Where’s the open social networking sessions? Where’s the inclusionary blogosphere sprit?

]]> By: Jeremiah Owyang http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244293 Jeremiah Owyang Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:58:28 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244293 Marc, Dave Wow. Easy. Marc, Dave

Wow. Easy.

]]> By: Quick Thoughts for 1.27.08 | WinExtra http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244288 Quick Thoughts for 1.27.08 | WinExtra Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:11:25 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244288 [...] Facebook extends their lock-in strategy :: Marc Canter - an excellent piece that points some sharp pins in the hot air around Facebook’s announcement about allowing Facebook widgets to live outside of the walled garden. [...] [...] Facebook extends their lock-in strategy :: Marc Canter - an excellent piece that points some sharp pins in the hot air around Facebook’s announcement about allowing Facebook widgets to live outside of the walled garden. [...]

]]> By: dave mcclure http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244287 dave mcclure Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:14:59 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/facebook-extends-their-lock-in-strategy#comment-244287 oh please, Marc. get a friggin' clue dude. most (if not all) of my portfolio companies are NOT based on Facebook, and Facebook wasn't even a sponsor for the last conference I ran -- which btw, made a *slight* profit, but barely covered my living expenses for the 3 months it took to put together. not to mention, I just wrote a fairly critical post a few weeks ago about how Facebook needs to do a better job on monetization, or risks making its developer, advertiser, & user community unstable. rip me anytime you want dude, but do your homework first. seriously. - dave mc oh please, Marc. get a friggin’ clue dude.

most (if not all) of my portfolio companies are NOT based on Facebook, and Facebook wasn’t even a sponsor for the last conference I ran — which btw, made a *slight* profit, but barely covered my living expenses for the 3 months it took to put together.

not to mention, I just wrote a fairly critical post a few weeks ago about how Facebook needs to do a better job on monetization, or risks making its developer, advertiser, & user community unstable.

rip me anytime you want dude, but do your homework first.

seriously.

- dave mc

]]>