Comments on: Hiding behind the shroud of privacy http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy Digital Lifestyle Aggregation - helping to establish open source infrastructure Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:34:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Basting thoughts on the Turkey of life - blogging http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243425 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Basting thoughts on the Turkey of life - blogging Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:15:30 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243425 [...] hypocrisy of Facebook is being disclosed. How can you on one hand hide behind the shroud of privacy - while MoveOn and others complain of privacy violations? What’s wrong with this [...] [...] hypocrisy of Facebook is being disclosed. How can you on one hand hide behind the shroud of privacy - while MoveOn and others complain of privacy violations? What’s wrong with this [...]

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243370 Charlie Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:52:13 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243370 I'm not sure OpenSocial has really answered the privacy question yet. It's not even clear that OpenSocial supports network portability from what I've seen. It's more about widget/app portability. It's interesting what Facebook lets out. Messages can't get out but event details can. I wonder whether Facebook would block apps which tried to sneak information out (ie an app which created a csv file of all your contacts). I’m not sure OpenSocial has really answered the privacy question yet. It’s not even clear that OpenSocial supports network portability from what I’ve seen. It’s more about widget/app portability.

It’s interesting what Facebook lets out. Messages can’t get out but event details can. I wonder whether Facebook would block apps which tried to sneak information out (ie an app which created a csv file of all your contacts).

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Giving your friends the ability to opt in = or not = to having their data exported with you http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243367 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Giving your friends the ability to opt in = or not = to having their data exported with you Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:06:45 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243367 [...] Benningfield left a very articulate comment on my last post, pointing out to me that the Facebook privacy shroud is as much about you moving your friends [...] [...] Benningfield left a very articulate comment on my last post, pointing out to me that the Facebook privacy shroud is as much about you moving your friends [...]

]]> By: Roger Benningfield http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243366 Roger Benningfield Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:38:18 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243366 "I resent Facebook execs continuing to hide behind the shroud of privacy to some how ‘protect me’ from who - myself?" Marc: It isn't about protecting you from yourself. It's about protecting everyone on your friends list from you. If I agree to declare myself your friend on Facebook, that in no way implies that I've agreed to be your friend on Myspace, LinkedIn, or some random PeopleAggregator-powered site. So even in a best-case (for you) scenario, FB can only open things up to the extent that they allow individual users to say, "yeah, Marc can take my unique identifier with him". And the number of people who would bother to check that box in their settings is probably somewhere between zero and Scoble. There's no benefit to *me* in letting you drag my Facebook persona around with you, after all. In all this talk of social silos, folks keep mentioning "my data". But ultimately, "my data" in Facebook is pretty sparse. The important stuff is actually "our data", and I have no business unilaterally deciding to take it elsewhere. “I resent Facebook execs continuing to hide behind the shroud of privacy to some how ‘protect me’ from who - myself?”

Marc: It isn’t about protecting you from yourself. It’s about protecting everyone on your friends list from you. If I agree to declare myself your friend on Facebook, that in no way implies that I’ve agreed to be your friend on Myspace, LinkedIn, or some random PeopleAggregator-powered site.

So even in a best-case (for you) scenario, FB can only open things up to the extent that they allow individual users to say, “yeah, Marc can take my unique identifier with him”. And the number of people who would bother to check that box in their settings is probably somewhere between zero and Scoble. There’s no benefit to *me* in letting you drag my Facebook persona around with you, after all.

In all this talk of social silos, folks keep mentioning “my data”. But ultimately, “my data” in Facebook is pretty sparse. The important stuff is actually “our data”, and I have no business unilaterally deciding to take it elsewhere.

]]> By: Cathy Brooks http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243364 Cathy Brooks Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:41:04 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/11/hiding-behind-the-shroud-of-privacy#comment-243364 Okay ... you said advertising and anus in the same sentence. Having worked in that business, it seems an apropos juxtaposition. Looking forward to your bringing some of your fire and brimstone to LeWeb3, Marc! Okay … you said advertising and anus in the same sentence. Having worked in that business, it seems an apropos juxtaposition. Looking forward to your bringing some of your fire and brimstone to LeWeb3, Marc!

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