Comments on: Greetings from Las Vegas http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/05/greetings-from-las-vegas Digital Lifestyle Aggregation - helping to establish open source infrastructure Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:20:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Alex Turner http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/05/greetings-from-las-vegas#comment-240429 Alex Turner Thu, 03 May 2007 13:52:19 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/05/greetings-from-las-vegas#comment-240429 I find that Twitter is much more about social networking than almost anything else on the web. If you build up a personal web page like in MySpace, you are showing people what you want them to see of you. By telling people what you are doing, you are giving people a much more human insight into your true nature. This greater emotional honesty causes clustering based in social coherence rather than on artificial icons like which band you think you should say you like. For me, I love twitter, does it show ;) AJ I find that Twitter is much more about social networking than almost anything else on the web. If you build up a personal web page like in MySpace, you are showing people what you want them to see of you. By telling people what you are doing, you are giving people a much more human insight into your true nature. This greater emotional honesty causes clustering based in social coherence rather than on artificial icons like which band you think you should say you like.

For me, I love twitter, does it show ;)

AJ

]]> By: Dave Winer http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/05/greetings-from-las-vegas#comment-240428 Dave Winer Thu, 03 May 2007 07:11:30 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/05/greetings-from-las-vegas#comment-240428 Marc, Twitter is like anything else -- you have to use it to understand it. Your criticisms only tell us why you aren't using it, they don't reveal anything about the service. You did this with the web too, it took you years to stop looking down your nose at it, and just use it. In those years, if you had been using it you would have been able to influence its development. Twitter is like that. The thing that makes it interesting is that a lot of people are using it. I wish you would too. Then we'd figure it out that much faster. Listen to Paolo, listen to me. Get off your butt and start using. Marc, Twitter is like anything else — you have to use it to understand it.

Your criticisms only tell us why you aren’t using it, they don’t reveal anything about the service.

You did this with the web too, it took you years to stop looking down your nose at it, and just use it. In those years, if you had been using it you would have been able to influence its development.

Twitter is like that. The thing that makes it interesting is that a lot of people are using it. I wish you would too. Then we’d figure it out that much faster. Listen to Paolo, listen to me. Get off your butt and start using.

]]> By: Shannon Clark http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/05/greetings-from-las-vegas#comment-240421 Shannon Clark Tue, 01 May 2007 17:54:34 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/05/greetings-from-las-vegas#comment-240421 Marc, I think you are missing the groups that are created ad-hoc (and in my opinion in a much more useful manner for me than on most "social networking" sites) by twitter. i.e. I'm part of a group of people who are following LaughingSquid (Scott Beale) via twitter. Not infrequently this means Scott posts a twitter about an event, and a dozen to a few dozen people show up somewhere. If getting a group together to drink is not social networking - then you and I have very different definitions of "social" My issue with most "social networks" and the groups therein is that they make it hard to know where to look for people and content - and then when you have an event or content to share, where to share it. i.e. which "group" does it belong in (or conversely for sites where you can add it to more than one group - ala flickr - remembering/knowing about all of the groups where you should be sharing it) For me at least this is a very very high burden - and often as not results in me entirely ignoring all of the group capabilities (and usually I leave networks websites when they start rolling out lots of groups - the utility for me goes down almost immediately when I no longer know where to share what) In contrast Twitter's "groups" just happen naturally as a result of common clusters - i.e. there are groups of us who all share a bunch of the same people as friends & followers on Twitter - this means that for our "group" it is then very easy to learn about group activities - and participate in them. But critically this did not require selecting or filtering into a different group as a group - rather it arises naturally out of our friends and/or people who we learn are on twitter and choose to follow. I actually hope Twitter does not "spawn off the notion of groups". my couple of cents, Shannon Marc,

I think you are missing the groups that are created ad-hoc (and in my opinion in a much more useful manner for me than on most “social networking” sites) by twitter.

i.e. I’m part of a group of people who are following LaughingSquid (Scott Beale) via twitter. Not infrequently this means Scott posts a twitter about an event, and a dozen to a few dozen people show up somewhere. If getting a group together to drink is not social networking - then you and I have very different definitions of “social”

My issue with most “social networks” and the groups therein is that they make it hard to know where to look for people and content - and then when you have an event or content to share, where to share it. i.e. which “group” does it belong in (or conversely for sites where you can add it to more than one group - ala flickr - remembering/knowing about all of the groups where you should be sharing it) For me at least this is a very very high burden - and often as not results in me entirely ignoring all of the group capabilities (and usually I leave networks websites when they start rolling out lots of groups - the utility for me goes down almost immediately when I no longer know where to share what)

In contrast Twitter’s “groups” just happen naturally as a result of common clusters - i.e. there are groups of us who all share a bunch of the same people as friends & followers on Twitter - this means that for our “group” it is then very easy to learn about group activities - and participate in them. But critically this did not require selecting or filtering into a different group as a group - rather it arises naturally out of our friends and/or people who we learn are on twitter and choose to follow.

I actually hope Twitter does not “spawn off the notion of groups”.

my couple of cents,

Shannon

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