I’m in the NY Times today
Marc Andressen spent some money on a launch and did the rounds - touting the relaunch of Ning. When I tried it - it was clear it’s not done yet - but yah can’t blame them for that.
To be clear - Ning does some of what we do - which are hosted social networks. But they don’t offer the source code of the whole dam thing or build custom networks for folks (which we’re getting ready to announce.)
Meanwhile Marc and Gina - got their pictures into a NY Times article today - written by Brad Stone. Brad pinged me several times relating to Cisco acquiring the technical assets of Tribe.net which was written by Brian Lawler and Paul Martino. That engine was never really tapped into by Tribe.net which got all hung up on ‘Craigslist‘ envy.
So this Cisco purchase is a validation of Brian and Paul’s original code. We tried to convince Mark Pincus to start white labeling Tribe years ago - but he never did. From that original gang at Tribe - several new companies and efforts were born.
Meanwhile I got my message into the article and I sure as hell hope that this first layer of the ID stack gets validated and stable - so we can start to build upon it. It was at Tribe that Paul and I first did the FOAFnet - which proved that rich profiles (including media, blog posts, friends and groups lists) could be moved between social networks (we were working with Julian Bond of Ecademy on that.)
But we also discovered that FOAF’s (as a data format) was not enough to solve this challenge. Anybody could take my FOAF file and call themselves me. And a FOAF file can contain your friends email addresses - which they may not want you to include.) So I pulled back and waited for the right solution.
I was convinced that Sxip Networks was the right solution - but unfortunately as much as Dick Hardt tried to explain that Sxip was open an NOT a proprietary format, it lost out to OpenID - which has less functionality - but has a great name. So now Dick and Sxip along with the JanRain folks up in Portland, OR have contributed to OpenID - the notion of an ‘attribute exchange‘.
THIS is the missing link which will enable those migratory beasts to take their data with them - and leave it there at the same time. We’ll be an early adopter and supporter of the OpenID2 spec - which includes the ‘attribute exchange’ - and I call out to Marc Andressen and Gina Bianchini, Alex Mouldavon and the other white label social networking vendors - to also support OpenID2.
I think you could do a bit of work making PeopleAgg look better - get a really hot designer on it as it looks a bit clunky. People spend more time trying something if it looks great. That’s where I think Ning has one over PeopleAgg. Still, Ning crashes both of my browsers IE7 and FF (sign).
I think you could do a bit of work making PeopleAgg look better - get a really hot designer on it as it looks a bit clunky. People spend more time trying something if it looks great. That’s where I think Ning has one over PeopleAgg. Still, Ning crashes both of my browsers IE7 and FF (sign).
I think you could do a bit of work making PeopleAgg look better - get a really hot designer on it as it looks a bit clunky. People spend more time trying something if it looks great. That’s where I think Ning has one over PeopleAgg. Still, Ning crashes both of my browsers IE7 and FF (sign).
I have to agree with Nick. I got very confused while trying to work with PeopleAgg and my primary social networks have become Facebook, LiveJournal and LinkedIn. Does OpenID incorporate FOAF, relationships and trust? I thought it was simply a unified, secure cross-site login service.
I have to agree with Nick. I got very confused while trying to work with PeopleAgg and my primary social networks have become Facebook, LiveJournal and LinkedIn. Does OpenID incorporate FOAF, relationships and trust? I thought it was simply a unified, secure cross-site login service.
I have to agree with Nick. I got very confused while trying to work with PeopleAgg and my primary social networks have become Facebook, LiveJournal and LinkedIn. Does OpenID incorporate FOAF, relationships and trust? I thought it was simply a unified, secure cross-site login service.
less functionality - but has a great name
A lesson for everybody here?
Kudos to you Marc for always advocating a very open development environment that focuses on the “social” rather than the “network”. Unfortunately I’m not sure People have a clear understanding of how People Aggregator has been working on an open do-it-yourself social network model for some time.
less functionality - but has a great name
A lesson for everybody here?
Kudos to you Marc for always advocating a very open development environment that focuses on the “social” rather than the “network”. Unfortunately I’m not sure People have a clear understanding of how People Aggregator has been working on an open do-it-yourself social network model for some time.
less functionality - but has a great name
A lesson for everybody here?
Kudos to you Marc for always advocating a very open development environment that focuses on the “social” rather than the “network”. Unfortunately I’m not sure People have a clear understanding of how People Aggregator has been working on an open do-it-yourself social network model for some time.
marc, my recollection is that you tried to convince us to open source our code. never to get into the white lable business. obviously, i was a believer in the white label model which was behind my efforts to do the one.org deal early on; which as you know the new ceo rejected.
marc, my recollection is that you tried to convince us to open source our code. never to get into the white lable business. obviously, i was a believer in the white label model which was behind my efforts to do the one.org deal early on; which as you know the new ceo rejected.
marc, my recollection is that you tried to convince us to open source our code. never to get into the white lable business. obviously, i was a believer in the white label model which was behind my efforts to do the one.org deal early on; which as you know the new ceo rejected.