Comments on: You can’t get away from silos, everywhere you have your profile data - is a silo http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/you-cant-get-away-from-silos-everywhere-you-have-your-profile-data-is-a-silo Digital Lifestyle Aggregation - helping to establish open source infrastructure Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:26:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Dave Kearns http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/you-cant-get-away-from-silos-everywhere-you-have-your-profile-data-is-a-silo#comment-238523 Dave Kearns Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:41:44 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/you-cant-get-away-from-silos-everywhere-you-have-your-profile-data-is-a-silo#comment-238523 That you don't know who I am says volumes about you Marc, and little about me. But it does show the depth of your ignorance about identity. Users, by the way don't want to move their data, they want to use their data. Their data. Not some silo's data. But in the spirit of furthering your education, try checking on the technology of "distributed data" - it's been around for a few years and will probably stick! That you don’t know who I am says volumes about you Marc, and little about me. But it does show the depth of your ignorance about identity.

Users, by the way don’t want to move their data, they want to use their data. Their data. Not some silo’s data. But in the spirit of furthering your education, try checking on the technology of “distributed data” - it’s been around for a few years and will probably stick!

]]> By: Julian Bond http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/you-cant-get-away-from-silos-everywhere-you-have-your-profile-data-is-a-silo#comment-238519 Julian Bond Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:56:19 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/you-cant-get-away-from-silos-everywhere-you-have-your-profile-data-is-a-silo#comment-238519 Any real world website where User profiles are a key part of the system has to store that profile data locally (at least for now). Hoping to build pages by getting that profile data on the fly from somewhere else just isn't going to work. Not even for single profile pages let alone pages that have data from lots of members at the same time. So for the moment I consider this approach of trying to do away with Silos by saying their not necessary and getting all profile data on the fly to be just academic wanking. So if you've got a local (cache) copy of profiles, you've got to deal with data in, data out and data sync. Deal with that and it shouldn't matter where the master copy is. In fact it probably should be on a server under my control and not some external aggregator silo somewhere. Although that won't suit everyone and there'll be a market for systems that can do it all for you. And every Social Network site will want to offer that facility in the hope that their system is the keeper of your master profile copy. Which is just another way of saying "You're right, Marc"! Any real world website where User profiles are a key part of the system has to store that profile data locally (at least for now). Hoping to build pages by getting that profile data on the fly from somewhere else just isn’t going to work. Not even for single profile pages let alone pages that have data from lots of members at the same time. So for the moment I consider this approach of trying to do away with Silos by saying their not necessary and getting all profile data on the fly to be just academic wanking.

So if you’ve got a local (cache) copy of profiles, you’ve got to deal with data in, data out and data sync. Deal with that and it shouldn’t matter where the master copy is. In fact it probably should be on a server under my control and not some external aggregator silo somewhere. Although that won’t suit everyone and there’ll be a market for systems that can do it all for you. And every Social Network site will want to offer that facility in the hope that their system is the keeper of your master profile copy.

Which is just another way of saying “You’re right, Marc”!

]]>