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	<title>Comments on: Welcome IBM to the corporate world of social networking</title>
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		<title>By: Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OM is right - social networking is embedding itself into everything</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/welcome-ibm-to-the-corporate-world-of-social-networking#comment-238617</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OM is right - social networking is embedding itself into everything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Om also didn&#8217;t mention IBM, Five Across, KickApps or CrowdFactory. There&#8217;s lots of us out here - selling pre-built [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Om also didn&#8217;t mention IBM, Five Across, KickApps or CrowdFactory. There&#8217;s lots of us out here - selling pre-built [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Mommy</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/welcome-ibm-to-the-corporate-world-of-social-networking#comment-238474</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with your opinion.... 
Anyway I like your blog it's sio nice,....


Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with your opinion&#8230;.<br />
Anyway I like your blog it&#8217;s sio nice,&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/welcome-ibm-to-the-corporate-world-of-social-networking#comment-238470</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

I don't see how my comments are incongruent with your view about profiles. For instance, you should see my question and answers series on LinkedIn re. the need for FOAF renditions of their public profiles. I have blogged extensively about People &#38; Data Networks (which by definition includes communications).

See: http://www.openlinksw.com/weblog/public/search.vspx?blogid=127&#38;q=people%20data%20networks&#38;type=text&#38;output=html

Kingsley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how my comments are incongruent with your view about profiles. For instance, you should see my question and answers series on LinkedIn re. the need for FOAF renditions of their public profiles. I have blogged extensively about People &amp; Data Networks (which by definition includes communications).</p>
<p>See: <a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/weblog/public/search.vspx?blogid=127&amp;q=people%20data%20networks&amp;type=text&amp;output=html" rel="nofollow">http://www.openlinksw.com/weblog/public/search.vspx?blogid=127&amp;q=people%20data%20networks&amp;type=text&amp;output=html</a></p>
<p>Kingsley</p>
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		<title>By: Women Want</title>
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		<dc:creator>Women Want</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, anyway I like this blog too, beautifull blog............


Regards,

Barbara - http://beautifull.to.md</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, anyway I like this blog too, beautifull blog&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Barbara - <a href="http://beautifull.to.md" rel="nofollow">http://beautifull.to.md</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; End of January time - links</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/welcome-ibm-to-the-corporate-world-of-social-networking#comment-238455</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; End of January time - links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Intelligent comment from Kingsley Idehen on IBM and corporate social networking.  Kingsley&#8217;s right - Enterprise have been grappling with Distributed Collaborative Applications (DCA) for years.  But its more than the graph dude - its about communicating and profile pages. After many many years in the making, and just in time for the next election - CivcSpace has finally shipped.  Congrats dudes!  I love the term &#8220;Constituent Relationship Management Database&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Intelligent comment from Kingsley Idehen on IBM and corporate social networking.  Kingsley&#8217;s right - Enterprise have been grappling with Distributed Collaborative Applications (DCA) for years.  But its more than the graph dude - its about communicating and profile pages. After many many years in the making, and just in time for the next election - CivcSpace has finally shipped.  Congrats dudes!  I love the term &#8220;Constituent Relationship Management Database&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/welcome-ibm-to-the-corporate-world-of-social-networking#comment-238390</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Is social networking in the enterprise really new? Enterprise have been grappling with Distributed Collaborative Applications (DCA) [1] for years (BTW - Lotus Notes is a first Generation DCA).

The RDF Data Model (the Directed Graph as opposed to RDF/XML serialization) is the model that facilitates all of this. For instance, it is actually possible today for Weblogs, Wikis, Shared Bookmarks, Discussions etc.. to exist on an Intranet with all the data accessible via RDF aware technologies (e.g. SPARQL compliant tools).

OpenLink Data Spaces [2][3] has solved this problem for a very long time on both fronts: Intranet and Internet (e.g Blogosphere). It can take anything in Web 2.0 and project as RDF Instance Data which is accessible via SPARQL Clients (note the SPARQL protocol is REST and SOAP based). 

Lotus are simply evolving (as they should) toward the obvious (Semantic Web technology exploitation within the Enterprise). 

It is all about the Graph, but Social Networks (which are Graphs when all is said an done) somehow appear to be pitched as being incongruent with the essence of the Semantic Web vision (which is now veering away from an over emphasis on AI and RDF/XML towards Data Integration and Data Generation).

Again, anything that is available in RSS, Atom, OPML, XBEL etc.. can be projected as RDF instance data using the right tools.

BTW - Wordpress also emits RDF Instance Data via SIOC Exporters :-)

Links:

1. http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/cisi/relay/html/paper/node3.html - Distributed Collaborative Applications (circa. 1997 which is still later than Notes 1.0 :-) )

2. www.cs.washington.edu/homes/alon/files/dataspacesDec05.pdf - From Databases to Dataspaces

3. http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/OdsIndex - OpenLink Data Spaces (exposed Web 2.0 data as RDF Instance without any coding or fuss, subscribe and publish and that's it)

4. http://sioc-project.org/ - SIOC (one of many Ontologies for modelling online communities which integrates with FOAF nicely)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Is social networking in the enterprise really new? Enterprise have been grappling with Distributed Collaborative Applications (DCA) [1] for years (BTW - Lotus Notes is a first Generation DCA).</p>
<p>The RDF Data Model (the Directed Graph as opposed to RDF/XML serialization) is the model that facilitates all of this. For instance, it is actually possible today for Weblogs, Wikis, Shared Bookmarks, Discussions etc.. to exist on an Intranet with all the data accessible via RDF aware technologies (e.g. SPARQL compliant tools).</p>
<p>OpenLink Data Spaces [2][3] has solved this problem for a very long time on both fronts: Intranet and Internet (e.g Blogosphere). It can take anything in Web 2.0 and project as RDF Instance Data which is accessible via SPARQL Clients (note the SPARQL protocol is REST and SOAP based). </p>
<p>Lotus are simply evolving (as they should) toward the obvious (Semantic Web technology exploitation within the Enterprise). </p>
<p>It is all about the Graph, but Social Networks (which are Graphs when all is said an done) somehow appear to be pitched as being incongruent with the essence of the Semantic Web vision (which is now veering away from an over emphasis on AI and RDF/XML towards Data Integration and Data Generation).</p>
<p>Again, anything that is available in RSS, Atom, OPML, XBEL etc.. can be projected as RDF instance data using the right tools.</p>
<p>BTW - Wordpress also emits RDF Instance Data via SIOC Exporters <img src='http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Links:</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/cisi/relay/html/paper/node3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/cisi/relay/html/paper/node3.html</a> - Distributed Collaborative Applications (circa. 1997 which is still later than Notes 1.0 <img src='http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>2. <a href="http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/alon/files/dataspacesDec05.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/alon/files/dataspacesDec05.pdf</a> - From Databases to Dataspaces</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/OdsIndex" rel="nofollow">http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/OdsIndex</a> - OpenLink Data Spaces (exposed Web 2.0 data as RDF Instance without any coding or fuss, subscribe and publish and that&#8217;s it)</p>
<p>4. <a href="http://sioc-project.org/" rel="nofollow">http://sioc-project.org/</a> - SIOC (one of many Ontologies for modelling online communities which integrates with FOAF nicely)</p>
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		<title>By: J's Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/welcome-ibm-to-the-corporate-world-of-social-networking#comment-238331</link>
		<dc:creator>J's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got started in blogging recently and set up my &lt;a href="http://www.seductiontipss.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;. Just learning as much as I can... could do with some useful links.

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got started in blogging recently and set up my <a href="http://www.seductiontipss.com" rel="nofollow">blog</a>. Just learning as much as I can&#8230; could do with some useful links.</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: The Meshverse Journal &#187; A Second Life for Lotus</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/01/welcome-ibm-to-the-corporate-world-of-social-networking#comment-238289</link>
		<dc:creator>The Meshverse Journal &#187; A Second Life for Lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marc Canter says that IBM&#8217;s validation of social networking with the release of Lotus Connections is BIG news. Perhaps even more noteworthy is the fact that the announcement was made in Second Life: New to Lotusphere this year is the introduction of a Lotusphere Complex in Second Life, marking the first time IBM has run a customer conference simultaneously in both the real and virtual worlds. By visiting the Lotusphere Complex in Second Life (http://slurl.com/secondlife/ibm 9/34/58/23/) &#8212; which IBM will launch on Tuesday, January 23 &#8212; avatars can interact with Lotus experts, learn about software solutions, and experience Lotusphere from wherever they are. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marc Canter says that IBM&#8217;s validation of social networking with the release of Lotus Connections is BIG news. Perhaps even more noteworthy is the fact that the announcement was made in Second Life: New to Lotusphere this year is the introduction of a Lotusphere Complex in Second Life, marking the first time IBM has run a customer conference simultaneously in both the real and virtual worlds. By visiting the Lotusphere Complex in Second Life (http://slurl.com/secondlife/ibm 9/34/58/23/) &#8212; which IBM will launch on Tuesday, January 23 &#8212; avatars can interact with Lotus experts, learn about software solutions, and experience Lotusphere from wherever they are. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FredTime Stories &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IBM: I’m Blogging on MySpace</title>
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		<dc:creator>FredTime Stories &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IBM: I’m Blogging on MySpace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And IBM isn’t just talking about it, they’re taking nice long drinks of their Big Blue Kool-Aid. They’ve got their own employees already writing their own blogs… they even have a podcast about it. Marc Canter has a nice write-up talking about how he imagines companies using social networking. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And IBM isn’t just talking about it, they’re taking nice long drinks of their Big Blue Kool-Aid. They’ve got their own employees already writing their own blogs… they even have a podcast about it. Marc Canter has a nice write-up talking about how he imagines companies using social networking. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis howlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BT's quiet entry into the market should not be under estimated. It may not be all singing and dancing Web 2.0 but it is good enough (just ) for the crowd that wouldn't know RSS from the ir ass and would probably punch you out for asking if they could go on your blogroll. In other words the 95% of businesses who couldn't give a crap about the internet but as interested in finding new ways to make money and do see that collaboration pays. Excellent for the Global Microbrand followers. 

It's not all plain sailing and some of it is ugly indeed. But it is good stuff. And very well priced as a secure service alternative. 

BTW - thanks to Sam for putting my into this story. Up to now, it's been pretty much ignored by the blgoerati.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BT&#8217;s quiet entry into the market should not be under estimated. It may not be all singing and dancing Web 2.0 but it is good enough (just ) for the crowd that wouldn&#8217;t know RSS from the ir ass and would probably punch you out for asking if they could go on your blogroll. In other words the 95% of businesses who couldn&#8217;t give a crap about the internet but as interested in finding new ways to make money and do see that collaboration pays. Excellent for the Global Microbrand followers. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not all plain sailing and some of it is ugly indeed. But it is good stuff. And very well priced as a secure service alternative. </p>
<p>BTW - thanks to Sam for putting my into this story. Up to now, it&#8217;s been pretty much ignored by the blgoerati.</p>
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