Open letter to Hugh Forrest
What am I? Chopped Liver?
Imagine how I felt when a) you came to SF to throw a party and didn’t invite me - and you know why? Cause b) you dissed me and didn’t invite me to speak at SXSW this year.
Yah - I know all about the voting and the panel pickers - but that only accounts for 100 of the 150 panels you’re giving this year. So what do I have to do, and who do I have to sleep with or pleasure - to get a speaking slot?
If you ask around - I think you’ll find that people generally enjoy me speaking, consider me one of the best at every conference and in fact, actually learn things from the panels I’m on. I can even invite folks to come along with me and Scoble to Salt Lick. Or get in backstage to Matisyahu at Stubb’s - again.
God forbid you actually let me talk for more than :05 once in a while.
And just to be clear - I’d like to run or be on a panel about DLAs, open standards, the state of user-centric ID and ID exchange and in general - this wonderful whacky world we call “our industry”.
If not - then I’ll have to go ad hoc, hook up with Jon Lebkowsky and Matt Mullenweg and some of those UT party gals - and take over a bar or something.
Its not that I want a free pass or get invited to parties where Jason Kottke and Meg talk about meeting at SXSW - I just wanna participate and do something more than just show up and listen.
So wassup Hugh?
to sink this low ??? to openly beg ? have you no shame ?????
to sink this low ??? to openly beg ? have you no shame ?????
to sink this low ??? to openly beg ? have you no shame ?????
I don’t get this, Marc. I was on a forum at SXSW a couple of years ago. I had fun. I will go there again this year. I don’t need an invitation. I signed up and will be there for nine days… And I’m sure I will have fun without a red carpet rolled out….
I don’t get this, Marc. I was on a forum at SXSW a couple of years ago. I had fun. I will go there again this year. I don’t need an invitation. I signed up and will be there for nine days… And I’m sure I will have fun without a red carpet rolled out….
I don’t get this, Marc. I was on a forum at SXSW a couple of years ago. I had fun. I will go there again this year. I don’t need an invitation. I signed up and will be there for nine days… And I’m sure I will have fun without a red carpet rolled out….
Hans, let me explain it to you.
They have two kinds of people who go to SXSW, people who speak and people who don’t. If you have a product to sell, as Marc does, and you have to listen to your competitors sell theirs, it’s only natural that you’d want to have an equal chance to sell yours.
For me, it’s ideas that I sell. When I go to a conference, like Marc, I don’t like to be seen as a second class citizen.
So I don’t go to SXSW, a conference that caters to people who don’t want to hear what I have to say, apparently. If they choose to make an issue of my participation, as they have, then no problem — I won’t participate. Marc is in a different position, he feels he has to, so for him, it’s worth raising the issue. Since he’s been my friend for over 20 years, I want to help and assure him that I don’t think any less of him because they’re being such dicks.
Hans, let me explain it to you.
They have two kinds of people who go to SXSW, people who speak and people who don’t. If you have a product to sell, as Marc does, and you have to listen to your competitors sell theirs, it’s only natural that you’d want to have an equal chance to sell yours.
For me, it’s ideas that I sell. When I go to a conference, like Marc, I don’t like to be seen as a second class citizen.
So I don’t go to SXSW, a conference that caters to people who don’t want to hear what I have to say, apparently. If they choose to make an issue of my participation, as they have, then no problem — I won’t participate. Marc is in a different position, he feels he has to, so for him, it’s worth raising the issue. Since he’s been my friend for over 20 years, I want to help and assure him that I don’t think any less of him because they’re being such dicks.
Hans, let me explain it to you.
They have two kinds of people who go to SXSW, people who speak and people who don’t. If you have a product to sell, as Marc does, and you have to listen to your competitors sell theirs, it’s only natural that you’d want to have an equal chance to sell yours.
For me, it’s ideas that I sell. When I go to a conference, like Marc, I don’t like to be seen as a second class citizen.
So I don’t go to SXSW, a conference that caters to people who don’t want to hear what I have to say, apparently. If they choose to make an issue of my participation, as they have, then no problem — I won’t participate. Marc is in a different position, he feels he has to, so for him, it’s worth raising the issue. Since he’s been my friend for over 20 years, I want to help and assure him that I don’t think any less of him because they’re being such dicks.
I got an email from Hugh Forrest calling me on saying “they’re being such dicks.”
Okay, I apologize for that. I’ve never met Hugh, so it’s not fair to say that he’s being a dick, even if it seems that way to me.
I would say it differently if I could do it over, just strike the part about them being dicks. It’s not important.
In other news, check out the Google Trends graph comparing podcast to SXSW…
http://google.com/trends?q=podcast%2Csxsw
and RSS to SXSW.
http://google.com/trends?q=rss%2Csxsw
One other thing, in tomorrow’s playoff game, let’s all say a prayer for the New Orleans Saints!
I got an email from Hugh Forrest calling me on saying “they’re being such dicks.”
Okay, I apologize for that. I’ve never met Hugh, so it’s not fair to say that he’s being a dick, even if it seems that way to me.
I would say it differently if I could do it over, just strike the part about them being dicks. It’s not important.
In other news, check out the Google Trends graph comparing podcast to SXSW…
http://google.com/trends?q=podcast%2Csxsw
and RSS to SXSW.
http://google.com/trends?q=rss%2Csxsw
One other thing, in tomorrow’s playoff game, let’s all say a prayer for the New Orleans Saints!
I got an email from Hugh Forrest calling me on saying “they’re being such dicks.”
Okay, I apologize for that. I’ve never met Hugh, so it’s not fair to say that he’s being a dick, even if it seems that way to me.
I would say it differently if I could do it over, just strike the part about them being dicks. It’s not important.
In other news, check out the Google Trends graph comparing podcast to SXSW…
http://google.com/trends?q=podcast%2Csxsw
and RSS to SXSW.
http://google.com/trends?q=rss%2Csxsw
One other thing, in tomorrow’s playoff game, let’s all say a prayer for the New Orleans Saints!
I had initially wanted to stay out of this one-sided dialogue, but the level of misinformation about the SXSW Interactive Festival begs for my input.
1) Marc submitted a panel idea (”Connecting Social Networks Together”) to the first round of the 2007 SXSW Panel Picker. This interface allowed the online community to vote on all such panel submissions, thereby giving the audience a central role in deciding the programming for the event. Marc’s panel idea scored 76 out of 176 submissions in Round One (Round Two of the Panel Picker contained another 192 panel submissions). I have no kind of personal vendetta against Marc — had his panel received more support from the community, he certainly would have been invited to speak at the event. Unfortunately, the amount of space we have for panels at SXSW Interactive is ultimately limited. Given the large number of submissions we received via the Panel Picker, there were a lot of wonderful programming ideas (Marc’s included) that didn’t make it into the 2007 schedule.
2) Marc complains that he wasn’t invited to the SXSW Western Connections Mixer in San Francisco on Monday evening, January 15. This is a completely specious argument. Everyone was invited to this party — the invite for the event was posted on the SXSW Interactive website and included in the SXSW monthly listserv. The implication that we hosted some kind of restricted / invite-only reception is ridiculous; this implication is antithetical to the open-community vibe that SXSW seeks to foster. Indeed, New York based readers of Marc’s blog are invited to stop by our party at the Mannahatta Lounge on Monday evening, January 22 (if you live in Austin, mark your calendar for January 29). Find more information on these events on the SXSW Interactive website.
3) In another post on this blog, Marc notes that he “spoke at the original original SXW - back in the early 90’s before Hugh was even involved.” Like many other points he makes about SXSW, this assertion is not entirely correct. Yes, I remember Marc from the early days — I was there, too. I have been working at SXSW Music since 1989 and have been the lead organizer of the Interactive Festival since it began in 1994. Although, in those days, it was called the SXSW Multimedia Conference.
4) Dave Winer contends “they have two kinds of people who go to SXSW, people who speak and people who don’t. If you have a product to sell, as Marc does, and you have to listen to your competitors sell theirs, it’s only natural that you’d want to have an equal chance to sell yours.” I very much disagree with this point. SXSW Interactive is very opposed to have speakers pitch their products from the panel dais (in fact, programming tends to focus more on the social implications of new media technology). After the event concludes, we carefully evaluate audience feedback on this matter. If attendees have complained that a given speaker pushed his product too much during the panel, then this speaker is not re-invited. However, I’m not surprised that Dave is confused on this point. To my knowledge, he has never actually attended SXSW Interactive.
5) Dave also laments that he has never been invited to speak at the SXSW Interactive Fesival. This is also an oversimplification. He and I had discussions in June 2006 about him being involved with the 2007 event. Dave was angling for a keynote position — when I told him that the keynote was unlikely to occur, my impression was that he lost interest. Otherwise, Dave had briefly confirmed to speak on a panel at the 2003 SXSW Interactive Festival Unfortunately, he later had to cancel, due to his busy schedule. The e-mail he wrote me on January 20, 2003 to notify me of this cancellation is as follows: “Hugh — go for one of the other proposals. My move to Boston is leaving me with no time even to respond to the emails. We can try again next year. Thanks for being so patient.”
I could go on, but what is the point . .
To Marc and Dave, I would really appreciate that you try to be more accurate in your facts before you start making wild assertions about SXSW. That said, I welcome you to submit your programming ideas to the 2008 Panel Picker (we will start accepting proposals in July). If the community likes the idea(s) you submit via this interface, then we would love to have either (or both) of you speak at the 2008 event. Just please leave the ego at home when you come to Austin. SXSW Interactive is a community of supportive, fun-loving, digital creatives — the whole red carpet thing just really doesn’t fit very well here.
To the readers of Marc’s blog, thank you for your time. I invite you to learn more about the 2007 SXSW Interactive Festival by visiting our website. Or, feel free to e-mail me with any questions you have about the event. To this end, I am a tad more comfortable answering individual queries as opposed to correcting misguided complaints in a semi-public forum such as this one.
Hugh Forrest
SXSW Interactive Festival
March 9-13, 2007
Austin, TX
I had initially wanted to stay out of this one-sided dialogue, but the level of misinformation about the SXSW Interactive Festival begs for my input.
1) Marc submitted a panel idea (”Connecting Social Networks Together”) to the first round of the 2007 SXSW Panel Picker. This interface allowed the online community to vote on all such panel submissions, thereby giving the audience a central role in deciding the programming for the event. Marc’s panel idea scored 76 out of 176 submissions in Round One (Round Two of the Panel Picker contained another 192 panel submissions). I have no kind of personal vendetta against Marc — had his panel received more support from the community, he certainly would have been invited to speak at the event. Unfortunately, the amount of space we have for panels at SXSW Interactive is ultimately limited. Given the large number of submissions we received via the Panel Picker, there were a lot of wonderful programming ideas (Marc’s included) that didn’t make it into the 2007 schedule.
2) Marc complains that he wasn’t invited to the SXSW Western Connections Mixer in San Francisco on Monday evening, January 15. This is a completely specious argument. Everyone was invited to this party — the invite for the event was posted on the SXSW Interactive website and included in the SXSW monthly listserv. The implication that we hosted some kind of restricted / invite-only reception is ridiculous; this implication is antithetical to the open-community vibe that SXSW seeks to foster. Indeed, New York based readers of Marc’s blog are invited to stop by our party at the Mannahatta Lounge on Monday evening, January 22 (if you live in Austin, mark your calendar for January 29). Find more information on these events on the SXSW Interactive website.
3) In another post on this blog, Marc notes that he “spoke at the original original SXW - back in the early 90’s before Hugh was even involved.” Like many other points he makes about SXSW, this assertion is not entirely correct. Yes, I remember Marc from the early days — I was there, too. I have been working at SXSW Music since 1989 and have been the lead organizer of the Interactive Festival since it began in 1994. Although, in those days, it was called the SXSW Multimedia Conference.
4) Dave Winer contends “they have two kinds of people who go to SXSW, people who speak and people who don’t. If you have a product to sell, as Marc does, and you have to listen to your competitors sell theirs, it’s only natural that you’d want to have an equal chance to sell yours.” I very much disagree with this point. SXSW Interactive is very opposed to have speakers pitch their products from the panel dais (in fact, programming tends to focus more on the social implications of new media technology). After the event concludes, we carefully evaluate audience feedback on this matter. If attendees have complained that a given speaker pushed his product too much during the panel, then this speaker is not re-invited. However, I’m not surprised that Dave is confused on this point. To my knowledge, he has never actually attended SXSW Interactive.
5) Dave also laments that he has never been invited to speak at the SXSW Interactive Fesival. This is also an oversimplification. He and I had discussions in June 2006 about him being involved with the 2007 event. Dave was angling for a keynote position — when I told him that the keynote was unlikely to occur, my impression was that he lost interest. Otherwise, Dave had briefly confirmed to speak on a panel at the 2003 SXSW Interactive Festival Unfortunately, he later had to cancel, due to his busy schedule. The e-mail he wrote me on January 20, 2003 to notify me of this cancellation is as follows: “Hugh — go for one of the other proposals. My move to Boston is leaving me with no time even to respond to the emails. We can try again next year. Thanks for being so patient.”
I could go on, but what is the point . .
To Marc and Dave, I would really appreciate that you try to be more accurate in your facts before you start making wild assertions about SXSW. That said, I welcome you to submit your programming ideas to the 2008 Panel Picker (we will start accepting proposals in July). If the community likes the idea(s) you submit via this interface, then we would love to have either (or both) of you speak at the 2008 event. Just please leave the ego at home when you come to Austin. SXSW Interactive is a community of supportive, fun-loving, digital creatives — the whole red carpet thing just really doesn’t fit very well here.
To the readers of Marc’s blog, thank you for your time. I invite you to learn more about the 2007 SXSW Interactive Festival by visiting our website. Or, feel free to e-mail me with any questions you have about the event. To this end, I am a tad more comfortable answering individual queries as opposed to correcting misguided complaints in a semi-public forum such as this one.
Hugh Forrest
SXSW Interactive Festival
March 9-13, 2007
Austin, TX
I had initially wanted to stay out of this one-sided dialogue, but the level of misinformation about the SXSW Interactive Festival begs for my input.
1) Marc submitted a panel idea (”Connecting Social Networks Together”) to the first round of the 2007 SXSW Panel Picker. This interface allowed the online community to vote on all such panel submissions, thereby giving the audience a central role in deciding the programming for the event. Marc’s panel idea scored 76 out of 176 submissions in Round One (Round Two of the Panel Picker contained another 192 panel submissions). I have no kind of personal vendetta against Marc — had his panel received more support from the community, he certainly would have been invited to speak at the event. Unfortunately, the amount of space we have for panels at SXSW Interactive is ultimately limited. Given the large number of submissions we received via the Panel Picker, there were a lot of wonderful programming ideas (Marc’s included) that didn’t make it into the 2007 schedule.
2) Marc complains that he wasn’t invited to the SXSW Western Connections Mixer in San Francisco on Monday evening, January 15. This is a completely specious argument. Everyone was invited to this party — the invite for the event was posted on the SXSW Interactive website and included in the SXSW monthly listserv. The implication that we hosted some kind of restricted / invite-only reception is ridiculous; this implication is antithetical to the open-community vibe that SXSW seeks to foster. Indeed, New York based readers of Marc’s blog are invited to stop by our party at the Mannahatta Lounge on Monday evening, January 22 (if you live in Austin, mark your calendar for January 29). Find more information on these events on the SXSW Interactive website.
3) In another post on this blog, Marc notes that he “spoke at the original original SXW - back in the early 90’s before Hugh was even involved.” Like many other points he makes about SXSW, this assertion is not entirely correct. Yes, I remember Marc from the early days — I was there, too. I have been working at SXSW Music since 1989 and have been the lead organizer of the Interactive Festival since it began in 1994. Although, in those days, it was called the SXSW Multimedia Conference.
4) Dave Winer contends “they have two kinds of people who go to SXSW, people who speak and people who don’t. If you have a product to sell, as Marc does, and you have to listen to your competitors sell theirs, it’s only natural that you’d want to have an equal chance to sell yours.” I very much disagree with this point. SXSW Interactive is very opposed to have speakers pitch their products from the panel dais (in fact, programming tends to focus more on the social implications of new media technology). After the event concludes, we carefully evaluate audience feedback on this matter. If attendees have complained that a given speaker pushed his product too much during the panel, then this speaker is not re-invited. However, I’m not surprised that Dave is confused on this point. To my knowledge, he has never actually attended SXSW Interactive.
5) Dave also laments that he has never been invited to speak at the SXSW Interactive Fesival. This is also an oversimplification. He and I had discussions in June 2006 about him being involved with the 2007 event. Dave was angling for a keynote position — when I told him that the keynote was unlikely to occur, my impression was that he lost interest. Otherwise, Dave had briefly confirmed to speak on a panel at the 2003 SXSW Interactive Festival Unfortunately, he later had to cancel, due to his busy schedule. The e-mail he wrote me on January 20, 2003 to notify me of this cancellation is as follows: “Hugh — go for one of the other proposals. My move to Boston is leaving me with no time even to respond to the emails. We can try again next year. Thanks for being so patient.”
I could go on, but what is the point . .
To Marc and Dave, I would really appreciate that you try to be more accurate in your facts before you start making wild assertions about SXSW. That said, I welcome you to submit your programming ideas to the 2008 Panel Picker (we will start accepting proposals in July). If the community likes the idea(s) you submit via this interface, then we would love to have either (or both) of you speak at the 2008 event. Just please leave the ego at home when you come to Austin. SXSW Interactive is a community of supportive, fun-loving, digital creatives — the whole red carpet thing just really doesn’t fit very well here.
To the readers of Marc’s blog, thank you for your time. I invite you to learn more about the 2007 SXSW Interactive Festival by visiting our website. Or, feel free to e-mail me with any questions you have about the event. To this end, I am a tad more comfortable answering individual queries as opposed to correcting misguided complaints in a semi-public forum such as this one.
Hugh Forrest
SXSW Interactive Festival
March 9-13, 2007
Austin, TX
Hugh, what panel were you asking me to be on in 2003? Did it have anything to do with what I do? Just curious.
And I’m not responsible for how things may seem to you. I’m sorry they picked you to be the gatekeeper at SXSW, the conference is really suffering for your weird politics.
If anyone else from SXSW is tuned in, get a new gatekeeper, this guy has too many issues!
Hugh, what panel were you asking me to be on in 2003? Did it have anything to do with what I do? Just curious.
And I’m not responsible for how things may seem to you. I’m sorry they picked you to be the gatekeeper at SXSW, the conference is really suffering for your weird politics.
If anyone else from SXSW is tuned in, get a new gatekeeper, this guy has too many issues!
Hugh, what panel were you asking me to be on in 2003? Did it have anything to do with what I do? Just curious.
And I’m not responsible for how things may seem to you. I’m sorry they picked you to be the gatekeeper at SXSW, the conference is really suffering for your weird politics.
If anyone else from SXSW is tuned in, get a new gatekeeper, this guy has too many issues!
I don’t know about the politics, but I do know that SXSW Interactive is fortunate to have so many smart people spend their own money to speak there. I know Hugh works hard to make sure the event goes off without a hitch. I’ve attended once, and I have to say, it all seemed to run like clockwork.
So I’ll draw an analogy.
In the music business, there is a point where you start to resent the folks who “pay to play,” meaning, they perform for free or pay out of their own pockets to perform at a venue so that they can shoot their load and maybe be discovered.
Most of the kids who pay to play are just that–kids. They play music on their fathers’ dimes. Their college is paid for, so it’s no skin off their nose to play a club for free. When all else fails, they have mom and dad — or a fallback career — waiting for them.
Meanwhile, the artists who are brave enough to sacrifice what it takes to make a living playing music, the grown-ups who stay with it because its in their blood, pay the price for the kids who are willing to pay money to showcase and grease the palms of greedy club owners.
The real vibe I got from SXSW was that it’s for kids, the young hipsters, which — tell me if I’m wrong here — we aren’t. We may be a lot of things, but we’re not yuppiepreneurs. And that’s the face of SXSW Interactive.
I was honored to be on a panel last year at SXSW, but I definitely felt like a dinosaur. I enjoyed panels where you commented from the audience, Marc. You know how to get a lively conversation started.
I think you would be a big draw as a pannelist at SXSW because you’re a pro. But that may also be why it’s not happening. Because you’re a pro.
I don’t know about the politics, but I do know that SXSW Interactive is fortunate to have so many smart people spend their own money to speak there. I know Hugh works hard to make sure the event goes off without a hitch. I’ve attended once, and I have to say, it all seemed to run like clockwork.
So I’ll draw an analogy.
In the music business, there is a point where you start to resent the folks who “pay to play,” meaning, they perform for free or pay out of their own pockets to perform at a venue so that they can shoot their load and maybe be discovered.
Most of the kids who pay to play are just that–kids. They play music on their fathers’ dimes. Their college is paid for, so it’s no skin off their nose to play a club for free. When all else fails, they have mom and dad — or a fallback career — waiting for them.
Meanwhile, the artists who are brave enough to sacrifice what it takes to make a living playing music, the grown-ups who stay with it because its in their blood, pay the price for the kids who are willing to pay money to showcase and grease the palms of greedy club owners.
The real vibe I got from SXSW was that it’s for kids, the young hipsters, which — tell me if I’m wrong here — we aren’t. We may be a lot of things, but we’re not yuppiepreneurs. And that’s the face of SXSW Interactive.
I was honored to be on a panel last year at SXSW, but I definitely felt like a dinosaur. I enjoyed panels where you commented from the audience, Marc. You know how to get a lively conversation started.
I think you would be a big draw as a pannelist at SXSW because you’re a pro. But that may also be why it’s not happening. Because you’re a pro.
I don’t know about the politics, but I do know that SXSW Interactive is fortunate to have so many smart people spend their own money to speak there. I know Hugh works hard to make sure the event goes off without a hitch. I’ve attended once, and I have to say, it all seemed to run like clockwork.
So I’ll draw an analogy.
In the music business, there is a point where you start to resent the folks who “pay to play,” meaning, they perform for free or pay out of their own pockets to perform at a venue so that they can shoot their load and maybe be discovered.
Most of the kids who pay to play are just that–kids. They play music on their fathers’ dimes. Their college is paid for, so it’s no skin off their nose to play a club for free. When all else fails, they have mom and dad — or a fallback career — waiting for them.
Meanwhile, the artists who are brave enough to sacrifice what it takes to make a living playing music, the grown-ups who stay with it because its in their blood, pay the price for the kids who are willing to pay money to showcase and grease the palms of greedy club owners.
The real vibe I got from SXSW was that it’s for kids, the young hipsters, which — tell me if I’m wrong here — we aren’t. We may be a lot of things, but we’re not yuppiepreneurs. And that’s the face of SXSW Interactive.
I was honored to be on a panel last year at SXSW, but I definitely felt like a dinosaur. I enjoyed panels where you commented from the audience, Marc. You know how to get a lively conversation started.
I think you would be a big draw as a pannelist at SXSW because you’re a pro. But that may also be why it’s not happening. Because you’re a pro.
Oh. thank goodness. I told Scoble that Salt Lick stinks and is only good for out-of-towners. Perhaps now I can drive him out to Kruez in Lockhart. The BBQ gods have come through at last and have driven Canter away to make way for the good BBQ. And other people will be able to talk instead of just waiting until his mouth is full.
Oh. thank goodness. I told Scoble that Salt Lick stinks and is only good for out-of-towners. Perhaps now I can drive him out to Kruez in Lockhart. The BBQ gods have come through at last and have driven Canter away to make way for the good BBQ. And other people will be able to talk instead of just waiting until his mouth is full.
Oh. thank goodness. I told Scoble that Salt Lick stinks and is only good for out-of-towners. Perhaps now I can drive him out to Kruez in Lockhart. The BBQ gods have come through at last and have driven Canter away to make way for the good BBQ. And other people will be able to talk instead of just waiting until his mouth is full.
Dave,
Does suffering mean getting better and more popular? Then yes, it is suffering. One of the things that I have always liked about SXSW is that it isn’t full of people who assume that they should be there and should get to speak. Just because you think that you should be there doesn’t mean you are entitled. Why does that attitude have to exist? It’s directly opposite to the entire vibe of the event. Perhaps that has something to do with it?
Dave,
Does suffering mean getting better and more popular? Then yes, it is suffering. One of the things that I have always liked about SXSW is that it isn’t full of people who assume that they should be there and should get to speak. Just because you think that you should be there doesn’t mean you are entitled. Why does that attitude have to exist? It’s directly opposite to the entire vibe of the event. Perhaps that has something to do with it?
Dave,
Does suffering mean getting better and more popular? Then yes, it is suffering. One of the things that I have always liked about SXSW is that it isn’t full of people who assume that they should be there and should get to speak. Just because you think that you should be there doesn’t mean you are entitled. Why does that attitude have to exist? It’s directly opposite to the entire vibe of the event. Perhaps that has something to do with it?
Zombie, you are putting words into my mouth.
I’m here speaking up for Marc, because he needs someone to stand up for him and say whoa wait a minute, he’s a good man who has helped many people, myself included.
That said, my work is often discussed at his conference. Foolish me to think that perhaps I might have something to contribute, old obsolete fart that I am.
Make way for the new. They are cowards who can’t handle a few smartass olduns.
Feh. I think most of the people who go to SXSW are good people. An uppity gatekeeper is making it easy for a few of his friends. Are they slipping him a few bucks under the table? Who knows. I’ve never heard of Hugh Forrest before SXSW. I have no idea what his claim to fame is. What is it??
Happy Sunday one and all!
Zombie, you are putting words into my mouth.
I’m here speaking up for Marc, because he needs someone to stand up for him and say whoa wait a minute, he’s a good man who has helped many people, myself included.
That said, my work is often discussed at his conference. Foolish me to think that perhaps I might have something to contribute, old obsolete fart that I am.
Make way for the new. They are cowards who can’t handle a few smartass olduns.
Feh. I think most of the people who go to SXSW are good people. An uppity gatekeeper is making it easy for a few of his friends. Are they slipping him a few bucks under the table? Who knows. I’ve never heard of Hugh Forrest before SXSW. I have no idea what his claim to fame is. What is it??
Happy Sunday one and all!
Zombie, you are putting words into my mouth.
I’m here speaking up for Marc, because he needs someone to stand up for him and say whoa wait a minute, he’s a good man who has helped many people, myself included.
That said, my work is often discussed at his conference. Foolish me to think that perhaps I might have something to contribute, old obsolete fart that I am.
Make way for the new. They are cowards who can’t handle a few smartass olduns.
Feh. I think most of the people who go to SXSW are good people. An uppity gatekeeper is making it easy for a few of his friends. Are they slipping him a few bucks under the table? Who knows. I’ve never heard of Hugh Forrest before SXSW. I have no idea what his claim to fame is. What is it??
Happy Sunday one and all!
Dude. That’s pretty harsh. MC doesn’t get into the conference and then it devolves into Hugh is taking bribes? That’s fairly uncalled for. I emailed Mark and told him that I respected him and what he has done/does do but that it was the attitude that I didn’t respect. Same here again. The respect people have for other’s work can be easily eroded by their other actions.
Dude. That’s pretty harsh. MC doesn’t get into the conference and then it devolves into Hugh is taking bribes? That’s fairly uncalled for. I emailed Mark and told him that I respected him and what he has done/does do but that it was the attitude that I didn’t respect. Same here again. The respect people have for other’s work can be easily eroded by their other actions.
Dude. That’s pretty harsh. MC doesn’t get into the conference and then it devolves into Hugh is taking bribes? That’s fairly uncalled for. I emailed Mark and told him that I respected him and what he has done/does do but that it was the attitude that I didn’t respect. Same here again. The respect people have for other’s work can be easily eroded by their other actions.
Just trying to figure out what motivates Hugh, who at least has the courage to use his real name, unlike some other people around here.
Just trying to figure out what motivates Hugh, who at least has the courage to use his real name, unlike some other people around here.
Just trying to figure out what motivates Hugh, who at least has the courage to use his real name, unlike some other people around here.
I don’t think that tossing out accusations to see what sticks is a super way to “see what motivates someone.” I am not sure that not using my real name makes this conversation any less legitimate. It doesn’t particularly have to do with who I am, or for that matter who anyone is.
I don’t think that tossing out accusations to see what sticks is a super way to “see what motivates someone.” I am not sure that not using my real name makes this conversation any less legitimate. It doesn’t particularly have to do with who I am, or for that matter who anyone is.
I don’t think that tossing out accusations to see what sticks is a super way to “see what motivates someone.” I am not sure that not using my real name makes this conversation any less legitimate. It doesn’t particularly have to do with who I am, or for that matter who anyone is.
Pretty interesting exchange. Sounds alot like the kind of conversations I have with my 20 something kids. “Old hippie vs. Young Hipster”. I don’t really know much but I do know that it’s genetic for high energy youth to disrespect age and experience. Don’t know why anyone’s surprised at this. It’s a conversation that’s happened ever since humans invented language and started getting reasonably good at helping their kids to live past 2 years old. By what I can tell, SXSW is kinda like a Rave. If you’re in your 20’s, cool. 30’s.. hmmm..ok. 40’s… that’s creepy. 50’s or 60’s… ‘what’s HE doing here’? Is that some old rocker from the 60’s? Man.. what a burnout.
I know we aren’t burnouts and still have alot to contribute but no WAY are the youngin’s going to buy that. You didn’t when you were their age.
I say: Let’s do a NEW SXSW like conference.. and ONLY allow people to speak who’ve got at least 20 years in the business. Yea… we’ll call it WoodStick.
Course.. I’m an old fart, so what do I know.
Pretty interesting exchange. Sounds alot like the kind of conversations I have with my 20 something kids. “Old hippie vs. Young Hipster”. I don’t really know much but I do know that it’s genetic for high energy youth to disrespect age and experience. Don’t know why anyone’s surprised at this. It’s a conversation that’s happened ever since humans invented language and started getting reasonably good at helping their kids to live past 2 years old. By what I can tell, SXSW is kinda like a Rave. If you’re in your 20’s, cool. 30’s.. hmmm..ok. 40’s… that’s creepy. 50’s or 60’s… ‘what’s HE doing here’? Is that some old rocker from the 60’s? Man.. what a burnout.
I know we aren’t burnouts and still have alot to contribute but no WAY are the youngin’s going to buy that. You didn’t when you were their age.
I say: Let’s do a NEW SXSW like conference.. and ONLY allow people to speak who’ve got at least 20 years in the business. Yea… we’ll call it WoodStick.
Course.. I’m an old fart, so what do I know.
Pretty interesting exchange. Sounds alot like the kind of conversations I have with my 20 something kids. “Old hippie vs. Young Hipster”. I don’t really know much but I do know that it’s genetic for high energy youth to disrespect age and experience. Don’t know why anyone’s surprised at this. It’s a conversation that’s happened ever since humans invented language and started getting reasonably good at helping their kids to live past 2 years old. By what I can tell, SXSW is kinda like a Rave. If you’re in your 20’s, cool. 30’s.. hmmm..ok. 40’s… that’s creepy. 50’s or 60’s… ‘what’s HE doing here’? Is that some old rocker from the 60’s? Man.. what a burnout.
I know we aren’t burnouts and still have alot to contribute but no WAY are the youngin’s going to buy that. You didn’t when you were their age.
I say: Let’s do a NEW SXSW like conference.. and ONLY allow people to speak who’ve got at least 20 years in the business. Yea… we’ll call it WoodStick.
Course.. I’m an old fart, so what do I know.
I had many opportunities to go to SXSW while working in digital music and for some reason didn’t get a chance to go or didn’t make the effort frankly. Last year I got to speak on a panel about mobile social applications at Interactive and it was a blast. Actually, forget my panel, partying with Eric Rice, Ewan Spence and others ruled. I asked my PR firm to try to get me in again this year to no avail. To me no hard feelings as I know there are so many talented and bright people there. Hell, I am taking vacation this year to go and just hang out with some cool smart people and party.
Having seen Marc in action at Gnomedex I have to say that having him speak at SXSW would be a draw but even more fun would be to party with Marc at one of the raging after hours events. Both Marc and Dave have a ton of insightful things to say and to me thankfully I have heard them at Bloggercon, Gnomedex and other events. To me, go hang out and have some fun or else see you at some other event where you are featured. I don’t know Hugh and don’t know the mechanics of what goes on but to me based on my only experience thus far, the product is certainly a good one that I plan on partaking of for years to come.
I had many opportunities to go to SXSW while working in digital music and for some reason didn’t get a chance to go or didn’t make the effort frankly. Last year I got to speak on a panel about mobile social applications at Interactive and it was a blast. Actually, forget my panel, partying with Eric Rice, Ewan Spence and others ruled. I asked my PR firm to try to get me in again this year to no avail. To me no hard feelings as I know there are so many talented and bright people there. Hell, I am taking vacation this year to go and just hang out with some cool smart people and party.
Having seen Marc in action at Gnomedex I have to say that having him speak at SXSW would be a draw but even more fun would be to party with Marc at one of the raging after hours events. Both Marc and Dave have a ton of insightful things to say and to me thankfully I have heard them at Bloggercon, Gnomedex and other events. To me, go hang out and have some fun or else see you at some other event where you are featured. I don’t know Hugh and don’t know the mechanics of what goes on but to me based on my only experience thus far, the product is certainly a good one that I plan on partaking of for years to come.
I had many opportunities to go to SXSW while working in digital music and for some reason didn’t get a chance to go or didn’t make the effort frankly. Last year I got to speak on a panel about mobile social applications at Interactive and it was a blast. Actually, forget my panel, partying with Eric Rice, Ewan Spence and others ruled. I asked my PR firm to try to get me in again this year to no avail. To me no hard feelings as I know there are so many talented and bright people there. Hell, I am taking vacation this year to go and just hang out with some cool smart people and party.
Having seen Marc in action at Gnomedex I have to say that having him speak at SXSW would be a draw but even more fun would be to party with Marc at one of the raging after hours events. Both Marc and Dave have a ton of insightful things to say and to me thankfully I have heard them at Bloggercon, Gnomedex and other events. To me, go hang out and have some fun or else see you at some other event where you are featured. I don’t know Hugh and don’t know the mechanics of what goes on but to me based on my only experience thus far, the product is certainly a good one that I plan on partaking of for years to come.
this exchange is a pretty good example of why people think netaddicts are weird.
this exchange is a pretty good example of why people think netaddicts are weird.
this exchange is a pretty good example of why people think netaddicts are weird.
Can somebody explain why this is not the same as a 5 year old having a tantrum about not being invited to someone else’s birthday party.
If I were Hugh, I would exclude Marc too … now that I’ve seen how he behaves.
Can somebody explain why this is not the same as a 5 year old having a tantrum about not being invited to someone else’s birthday party.
If I were Hugh, I would exclude Marc too … now that I’ve seen how he behaves.
Can somebody explain why this is not the same as a 5 year old having a tantrum about not being invited to someone else’s birthday party.
If I were Hugh, I would exclude Marc too … now that I’ve seen how he behaves.
It’s just about the content people. No different than any other event age-wise. A lot of folks in their 30-40s, a good # below and not ton above. I think that’s just intrinsic of this industry. I think people would be interested in the age #s. Look around while you’re there.
It’s just about the content people. No different than any other event age-wise. A lot of folks in their 30-40s, a good # below and not ton above. I think that’s just intrinsic of this industry. I think people would be interested in the age #s. Look around while you’re there.
It’s just about the content people. No different than any other event age-wise. A lot of folks in their 30-40s, a good # below and not ton above. I think that’s just intrinsic of this industry. I think people would be interested in the age #s. Look around while you’re there.