Movement afoot - indeed

l.m. orchard is speaking my language.  I’ll just repost his entire post:

Don’t ask me who I am

I’m tired of filling out profiles, and I’m tired of building up networks of others’ profiles online. Everyone needs to adopt something like FOAF hCard and XFN (updated per suggestion from Kevin Marks), and be done with it. The networks should be semi-automated, or at least suggested, by detecting who I know from other places as they hop on another bandwagon with me. (The separations between implicit groups bounded by the particular service are as important as explicitly defined groups.)

LiveJournal was my first experience with much self-disclosure online, into which I dove with much enthusiasm. But since then, I just haven’t felt the need to replicate self-disclosure anywhere else but on my own site. Orkut, Rize, LinkedIn, MySpace, Vox, del.icio.us, last.fm, flickr, 43 {Things|People|Places} — these are sites in which I’ve had some passing or lasting interest in the last few years, but I wish I could just point them all at a single source for learning about me. It all needs to be turned inside out, and lock-ins removed.

Centrallized identity and social network management for distributed service providers is what I want. I’m sure there’s already a movement afoot, and I’ve just not reached that spot in my to-read list.

indeed- that’s what we’re working on…. stay tuned.  We’ll do XFN/hCard - AND - FOAF.

3 Responses to “Movement afoot - indeed”

  1. Julian Bond Says:

    Here’s the crucial part. But since then, I just haven’t felt the need to replicate self-disclosure anywhere else but on my own site. We need both ends of this. We need the social networks to be able to import the data. But we also need the personal blog software to support an “About Me” page that maintains and publishes the master copy. There continue to be major challenges around this area.

    - Master “About Me” page with export in common personal software
    - Standards for either a schema to describe people or ways of building it on the fly
    - Standards for transferring that data
    - Implementation of account creation using profile data from elsewhere
    - Ways of keeping everything in sync.

    And this all raises questions of exactly where the data should reside. The sync problem suggests it should never move
    and stay on the master site. We’ll just include it at run time. But that works against being able to generate added value from having lots of that data in one place. And there are commercial pressures pushing sites towards keeping their local copy.

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