Comments on: Response to comment by Kaat http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat Digital Lifestyle Aggregation - helping to establish open source infrastructure Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:51:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: raju http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-47792 raju Tue, 13 Jun 2006 00:17:44 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-47792 Sure looks a like fair deal to me. Open sourcing is an option which should be well considered by company before choosing that way. It's not a solution to all our problems. The idea that you pay if you start making money with the software and work of other people is nothing bad. And if you look at the price tag BBM is putting on the PeopleAggregator that looks like a VERY REASONABLE pricing. I wish all companies were as fair and as smart (being fair will not only pay off these days, but being unfair won't work anymore). Sure looks a like fair deal to me. Open sourcing is an option which should be well considered by company before choosing that way. It’s not a solution to all our problems. The idea that you pay if you start making money with the software and work of other people is nothing bad. And if you look at the price tag BBM is putting on the PeopleAggregator that looks like a VERY REASONABLE pricing. I wish all companies were as fair and as smart (being fair will not only pay off these days, but being unfair won’t work anymore).

]]> By: Margarita Pérez-García http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-46301 Margarita Pérez-García Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:31:20 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-46301 You are saying that the PA source code is available. I'm asking you where we can find it. I'm trying to build a list of social bookmarking systems and social networking systems which are open source or which make available their source code for educational purposes and I was willing to mention PA. Thank in advance! You are saying that the PA source code is available. I’m asking you where we can find it. I’m trying to build a list of social bookmarking systems and social networking systems which are open source or which make available their source code for educational purposes and I was willing to mention PA. Thank in advance!

]]> By: Stephan http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-46016 Stephan Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:05:05 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-46016 I can see what you mean however, a Trademark is an investment, that companies put time and money into, LOTS of it! The fact that they give so much out in marketing and NONE to protect the trademark, makes me upset and confused.... If you are going to have a trademark, suport it, it is YOUR name, YOUR company and YOUR idea, why should others take your idea and make money off it?? I can see what you mean however, a Trademark is an investment, that companies put time and money into, LOTS of it! The fact that they give so much out in marketing and NONE to protect the trademark, makes me upset and confused…. If you are going to have a trademark, suport it, it is YOUR name, YOUR company and YOUR idea, why should others take your idea and make money off it??

]]> By: fear uncertainty doubt generation engine » Blog Archive » Mugshot:Libgaim::PeopleAggregator:Trillian http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-45564 fear uncertainty doubt generation engine » Blog Archive » Mugshot:Libgaim::PeopleAggregator:Trillian Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:59:39 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-45564 [...] On the flip side, PeopleAggregator (currently the .com showing the CentOS default Apache page) and other new school portal companies will appeal to those that favor a packaged approach like Trillian for IM. While it might not be apparent, I don’t see people running to an API — they’ll run to a service. [...] [...] On the flip side, PeopleAggregator (currently the .com showing the CentOS default Apache page) and other new school portal companies will appeal to those that favor a packaged approach like Trillian for IM. While it might not be apparent, I don’t see people running to an API — they’ll run to a service. [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Peterson http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-44670 Jonathan Peterson Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:52:58 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-44670 Marc, Thanks for the details of your business plan. I've long thought that every website out there should have a "how we make money" page in the about us section I only want to do business with companies that are: A) friendly - treat me as a customer, not a cash cow and don't change the rules without giving me plenty of notice and ways to export/archive and go my own way. B) viable - make money PLEASE, I have no interest in investing time and effort into something that disappears, especially if the things I made/stored there and all my personal information go to the highest bidder when you die. People calling you on misusing Open Source is understandable, as it's been misused by so many companies. But you aren't Microsoft, folks could cut you a little slack for your lack of precision. Marc,

Thanks for the details of your business plan. I’ve long thought that every website out there should have a “how we make money” page in the about us section I only want to do business with companies that are:
A) friendly - treat me as a customer, not a cash cow and don’t change the rules without giving me plenty of notice and ways to export/archive and go my own way.
B) viable - make money PLEASE, I have no interest in investing time and effort into something that disappears, especially if the things I made/stored there and all my personal information go to the highest bidder when you die.

People calling you on misusing Open Source is understandable, as it’s been misused by so many companies. But you aren’t Microsoft, folks could cut you a little slack for your lack of precision.

]]> By: Ian Betteridge http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-44621 Ian Betteridge Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:09:39 +0000 http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/06/response-to-comment-by-kaat#comment-44621 So how do you enforce your rules for licensing? What stops someone who has "money rolling in" simply ignoring your rules. That's right - copyright law, and specifically the legal contract that your ownership of the copyright of your code allows you to enforce. So you think that copyright law sucks, and yet it's exactly the mechanism that allows you to enforce the (perfectly fair imho) rules on the use of your software. Can you spot the contradiction there? So how do you enforce your rules for licensing? What stops someone who has “money rolling in” simply ignoring your rules.

That’s right - copyright law, and specifically the legal contract that your ownership of the copyright of your code allows you to enforce. So you think that copyright law sucks, and yet it’s exactly the mechanism that allows you to enforce the (perfectly fair imho) rules on the use of your software.

Can you spot the contradiction there?

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