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	<title>Comments on: Reading the tea leaves: where the money is and isn&#8217;t - new business models emerge</title>
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		<title>By: Verin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone know where to download free games for the zx10, it says here http://www.cellphonestalk.com/cellphonereviews/samsung/zx10/intro.html

Thanks to J2ME (Java 2, Micro Edition) tons of cell phone games, ringtones, wallpapers and screensavers can be downloaded onto the phone. With 50mb of internal memory, users can allocate even more memory or storage space via a TransFlash memory expansion slot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone know where to download free games for the zx10, it says here <a href="http://www.cellphonestalk.com/cellphonereviews/samsung/zx10/intro.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cellphonestalk.com/cellphonereviews/samsung/zx10/intro.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks to J2ME (Java 2, Micro Edition) tons of cell phone games, ringtones, wallpapers and screensavers can be downloaded onto the phone. With 50mb of internal memory, users can allocate even more memory or storage space via a TransFlash memory expansion slot.</p>
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		<title>By: P-Air</title>
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		<dc:creator>P-Air</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"- its just that we’re tired of hearing from the same people - over and over again."

Hey Marc, don't forget, we're not all professional conference attendees like you and several others who seem to spend a lot of time at every {X}-Camp or BlogX or XBlog, in any part of the world that these occur spreading the gospel of all things blogging/Web 2.0.  I can see how you're sick of it, however, for the rest of us who do not spend very much time at these events, going to one or two of these a year at most, we some times hear fm these people for the first time.

The number of people who attend every one of these events and is *actually* and are tired of the same speakers, is quite small.  The reality is that attendees need to be selective and not go to all of these events...right?  Why is it necessary to have 10-20-30 events on these subjects per year if not to educate people at all levels.  Don't begrudge conference styles, perhaps best to just pick and choose the modes that work best for you vs. those that work better for others.  While you're not a fan of structured conferences, I'm not a fan of having a sleepover (Camp anything) to yap about stuff I spend all day thinking and working on.  The answer for you s/just be "stop attending so many conferences" ;-)

As for biz models, don't forget, you've spent much time begrudging people these, but as I've always said to you, they're key to making *any* of this stuff relevant.  Separately, what about middle america who is clueless to 90% of what's discussed in most of these conferences?  Hmmm...I'll leave that to be pondered about :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;- its just that we’re tired of hearing from the same people - over and over again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey Marc, don&#8217;t forget, we&#8217;re not all professional conference attendees like you and several others who seem to spend a lot of time at every {X}-Camp or BlogX or XBlog, in any part of the world that these occur spreading the gospel of all things blogging/Web 2.0.  I can see how you&#8217;re sick of it, however, for the rest of us who do not spend very much time at these events, going to one or two of these a year at most, we some times hear fm these people for the first time.</p>
<p>The number of people who attend every one of these events and is *actually* and are tired of the same speakers, is quite small.  The reality is that attendees need to be selective and not go to all of these events&#8230;right?  Why is it necessary to have 10-20-30 events on these subjects per year if not to educate people at all levels.  Don&#8217;t begrudge conference styles, perhaps best to just pick and choose the modes that work best for you vs. those that work better for others.  While you&#8217;re not a fan of structured conferences, I&#8217;m not a fan of having a sleepover (Camp anything) to yap about stuff I spend all day thinking and working on.  The answer for you s/just be &#8220;stop attending so many conferences&#8221; <img src='http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for biz models, don&#8217;t forget, you&#8217;ve spent much time begrudging people these, but as I&#8217;ve always said to you, they&#8217;re key to making *any* of this stuff relevant.  Separately, what about middle america who is clueless to 90% of what&#8217;s discussed in most of these conferences?  Hmmm&#8230;I&#8217;ll leave that to be pondered about <img src='http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Technorati: A survey company only?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Technorati: A survey company only?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m with Marc Canter on this one, show us the money! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc! 

I didn't say that Orb had a deal with Cingular (they may or may not, but I don't think so though), I simply said that streaming media from Orb on my desktop works over Cingular's 3G network using a Samsung ZX10 (which, as it turns out, supports Real video). 

-Russ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc! </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say that Orb had a deal with Cingular (they may or may not, but I don&#8217;t think so though), I simply said that streaming media from Orb on my desktop works over Cingular&#8217;s 3G network using a Samsung ZX10 (which, as it turns out, supports Real video). </p>
<p>-Russ</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the randomness of the unconference, but as  former conference producer who did events with thousands of folks I have to say that at least *some* of the editorial planning should be done in advance. BarCampLA was a great event, but it could have used some "anchors" to build the freewheelin stuff around. You know... pillars and signposts along the way. Like for every 100 minutes of freeform have 20-30 of focused (a 5 to 1 or 3 to 1 ratio).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the randomness of the unconference, but as  former conference producer who did events with thousands of folks I have to say that at least *some* of the editorial planning should be done in advance. BarCampLA was a great event, but it could have used some &#8220;anchors&#8221; to build the freewheelin stuff around. You know&#8230; pillars and signposts along the way. Like for every 100 minutes of freeform have 20-30 of focused (a 5 to 1 or 3 to 1 ratio).</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Shapiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if someone builds a large unconference space, it would be sweet if the space were designed so that conference attendees could sleep within the conference space itself -- youth-hostel style.  you could do that with movable walls that slide into place -- with fold down beds coming down off the walls. 

     i don't need a $125 hotel room when i attend a conference. i just need a clean, quiet bed to rest my body. by reducing the cost of the sleeping space down to $25, you would dramatically change the number of people who could attend the conference.  a 200 person conference then becomes a 600 person conference.  a 600 person conference becomes a 5000 person conference. and a 5000 person conference becomes a digital woodstock.

      are there any rural locations with inexpensive land that are wired for fiber optic (or are otherwise have access to broadband?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if someone builds a large unconference space, it would be sweet if the space were designed so that conference attendees could sleep within the conference space itself &#8212; youth-hostel style.  you could do that with movable walls that slide into place &#8212; with fold down beds coming down off the walls. </p>
<p>     i don&#8217;t need a $125 hotel room when i attend a conference. i just need a clean, quiet bed to rest my body. by reducing the cost of the sleeping space down to $25, you would dramatically change the number of people who could attend the conference.  a 200 person conference then becomes a 600 person conference.  a 600 person conference becomes a 5000 person conference. and a 5000 person conference becomes a digital woodstock.</p>
<p>      are there any rural locations with inexpensive land that are wired for fiber optic (or are otherwise have access to broadband?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The place is the big expense, so how about new places. How about a church any day but Sunday? How about schools on Saturdays? A movie theater during a weekday when it's othewise dark? It still costs money, but not as much. Corporate conference rooms where donation of space is the most powerful form of sponsorship? Any other spots that are under-used? 

Also, Dave's right (of course) about planning unconferences. I attended &lt;a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/25/saving-journalism-and-killing-the-press/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; one and the discussion leader, a newspaper editor, was just great because she let the flow go where it wanted to go but then she helped it get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The place is the big expense, so how about new places. How about a church any day but Sunday? How about schools on Saturdays? A movie theater during a weekday when it&#8217;s othewise dark? It still costs money, but not as much. Corporate conference rooms where donation of space is the most powerful form of sponsorship? Any other spots that are under-used? </p>
<p>Also, Dave&#8217;s right (of course) about planning unconferences. I attended <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/25/saving-journalism-and-killing-the-press/" rel="nofollow">this</a> one and the discussion leader, a newspaper editor, was just great because she let the flow go where it wanted to go but then she helped it get there.</p>
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		<title>By: David Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;We know how SixApart makes money and SocialText - 
&#62;but what about WordPress, Riya and my friends at PubSub?

well...maybe not "make" money, but seems wordpress is "taking" money...

Open-Source Blogging Co. Automattic Seals First Round 
By VentureWire Staff Reporters
4/14/2006 – Automattic Inc., the maker of the popular blogging software WordPress, has raised an undisclosed amount in a first venture round. [ full story ]
http://www.automattic.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;We know how SixApart makes money and SocialText -<br />
&gt;but what about WordPress, Riya and my friends at PubSub?</p>
<p>well&#8230;maybe not &#8220;make&#8221; money, but seems wordpress is &#8220;taking&#8221; money&#8230;</p>
<p>Open-Source Blogging Co. Automattic Seals First Round<br />
By VentureWire Staff Reporters<br />
4/14/2006 – Automattic Inc., the maker of the popular blogging software WordPress, has raised an undisclosed amount in a first venture round. [ full story ]<br />
<a href="http://www.automattic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.automattic.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: ANVL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;DVRAnywhere (or, how can Orb be so COOL?)&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>DVRAnywhere (or, how can Orb be so COOL?)</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Dave&#8217;s Wordpress Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scripting News for 4/14/2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave&#8217;s Wordpress Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scripting News for 4/14/2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marc Canter on conferences and business models.&#160; [...]</description>
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