Business as usual - on the conference front
OK - I’m officially complaining now. The speaker’s list for Supernova has been officially sent out and guess what? Its all the same people - AGAIN?
I mean how many times do we need to hear from Dave Sifry, Mary Hodder, Joi Ito, Dan Gillmor, Werner Vogels, Jeremy Allaire, Amy Jo Kim, Craig Newmark, Seth Goldstein, Jonathan Schwartz - and my favorite - Robert Scoble?
How many times do these people talk at the same conferences, over and over again - on the same subject matter? Why doesn’t Kevin Werbach grok this? Who wants to go hear the same people all over again - talk about what? Web 2.0? The Long Tail? Ajax? Craigslist? Tagging? Citizen Journalism? Come on - give me a break!
Look Kevin - its fine to stiff me and ignore me - but how DARE you get somebody to talk about Atention and NOT include Steve Gillmor?
How DARE you have one person mention RSS and NOT invite Dave Winer?
And who’s representing structuredblogging? Or open standards in general? Joi ito?
Dude - what’s up wit dat? Dat’s bullshit!
And lets see who’s a sponsor for this conference - yup IBM, CNet, Microsoft, Wharton school - yup all speaking, all sponsors.
So in case you’re wondering what’s going on at Supernova or what it is - you’ll have to find the link yourself - ’cause I ain’t linking to it. But I’m sure you’ll want to find out all about the ’state-of-the-slogosphere’ from Sifry - again.
- Jeremy Allaire (CEO, Brightcove)
- Azeem Azhar (Head of Innovation, Reuters)
- Jeff Belk (VP Marketing, Qualcomm)
- Betsy Book (Makena)
- Lise Buyer (VP Strategic Partnerships, TellMe)
- Nicolas Ducheneaut (PlayOn Group, PARC)
- Esther Dyson (CNET)
- John Garstka (Asst. Director, Office of Force Transformation, US Dept. of Defense)
- Dan Gillmor (Director, Center for Citizen Media)
- Seth Goldstein (Founder, Root Markets)
- Umair Haque (Principal, BubbleGeneration)
- Mary Hodder (CEO, Dabble)
- Dan Hunter (Professor, The Wharton School)
- Brett Hurt (CEO, BazaarVoice)
- Vernon Irvin (EVP, Verisign)
- Joichi Ito (Founder, Neoteny)
- Amy Jo Kim (Creative Director, Shufflebrain)
- Saul Klein (VP Marketing, Skype)
- Rebecca MacKinnon (Research Fellow, Berkman Center, Harvard Law School)
- Craig Newmark (Founder and Customer Service Rep., CraigsList)
- Beth Simone Noveck (Professor, NY Law School)
- Bob Pepper (Cisco)
- Greg Richardson (Founder, Civitium)
- Linda Sanford (SVP, IBM)
- Robert Scoble (Blogger and Evangelist, Microsoft)
- Jonathan Schwartz (President, Sun Microsystems)
- Tina Sharkey (SVP, Network and Community Programming, AOL)
- David Sifry (CEO, Technorati)
- Jonathan Taplin (USC Annenberg School and former CEO, Intertainer)
- Martin Varsavsky (CEO, Fon)
- Werner Vogels (CTO, Amazon.com)
- Esme Vos (MuniWireless.com)
- David Weinberger (JOHO)
- Michael Zyda (Director, GamePipe Lab, USC)
April 6th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
[…] I had lunch today with Marc Canter, we talked about a lot of things. I admire Marc’s passion and intelligence and good vibe, and I even like his anger. He and I both got screwed hard by Apple, but I use Macs and had an iPod in my pocket at lunch today. Marc won’t spend a dime on their products. I’m probably one of the few people in the industry who would support his stubborn insistence that his dollars matter. I gave up that battle a few years ago, when my readers gave me an iPod as a get well present. What the fuck. You think Steve Jobs notices the money I give him? Would he miss it if I didn’t spend it? No of course not, to both questions. […]
April 6th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
haha. marc, you’re so spot on but you kill me!
April 6th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
[…] Marc Canter wonders why we need to hear from the same old same old time and time again. […]
April 6th, 2006 at 8:49 pm
marc, i’d totally be down to co-chair a HoS unconference with ya…
April 6th, 2006 at 10:11 pm
Fairness is open but is open fair?
Every so often it’s important to re-state purpose.
Tactically, screwed. Strategically, there is no other story.
Get less me for we.
April 7th, 2006 at 2:32 am
I feel the same way Marc - where’s the freshness of the Long Tail? But - Werner Vogel and Robert Scoble on the same program has got to be worth a visit given the recent (ahem) exchange of views.
April 7th, 2006 at 4:09 am
Conferences are a big fat waste of time and money in an era when everyone has a blog.
What’s the ROI on $4000 you’re spending to attend? How about the 4 days of opportunity cost?
Back in the day, when community software was limited to trn, you needed conferences. But now, if I want to know what Marc Canter thinks I’ll read his blog. Many years ago I needed to go to the 2nd Macromind Developers Conference to learn what Marc thought (”It’s the shit, not the pipes”). Now Marc tells me every day.
Conferences are now about money for organizers, the ego of presenters and going to parties.
(Not that there’s anything wrong with parties.)
April 7th, 2006 at 5:40 am
I had a great time at SuperNova2005, but I have to agree, it sounds like SuperNova2006 will be the same thing all over again. Maybe I will send Brian or one of the other guys - they missed last years SuperNova and it looks like this will be a rerun.
April 7th, 2006 at 5:51 am
Great post, and good point on the “where’s the structured blogging”. I’m a huge fan and interested audience in the things going on at http://microformats.org , admitedly they had a spot at SXSW, but they are not getting enough attention IMHO.
April 7th, 2006 at 5:52 am
“Conferences are now about money for organizers, the ego of presenters and going to parties.”
Heck, if we all just took a day off once a month and showed up on a website with shared whiteboard, desktop application sharing, instant messaging and VoIP hooks - assuming the software was setup to allow multiple tracks and splitting off interesting BoF conversations.
End each meeting with proposals for what to talk about next time and send out a proposed agenda one week beforehand.
If only we could get work to pay for flying to another city to have dinner with some random interesting people there would never be another technology conference.
April 7th, 2006 at 7:20 am
[…] So it seems that Kevin Werbach is happy with his speaker list and I’m not and it seems that many people agree with me. […]
April 7th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
Marc I first heard you at Les Blogs, I thought you were just another loud mouthed arrogant American. A member of the me, myself and I digerati bloggers who think they actually matter. How wrong I was. Yes you are loud but you are proud. Proud enough to stand up and be counted, loud enough to call a spade a spade when you see it.
Where is Dan Connelly, Tim Berners Lee, Alex Barnett, Dare Obasanjo, Ray Ozzie, Mark Birbeck, Dick Hardt, Kim Cameron, Scott Issacs. Where is the discussion around the semantic web, SPARQL, Xforms, GRDDL and MicroFormats.
Don’t get me wrong there are some great speakers on the roster but like exhibitions I agree with Eric Schwartz is the conference had it day. If I want to know what any of these people think I pay attention to their blog.
April 7th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
Marc Canter on Supernova
Marc has a big gripe about Supernova: [from Business as usual - on the conference front by Marc Canter] OK - I’m officially complaining now. The speaker’s list for Supernova has been officially sent out and guess what? Its all
April 7th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
Sounds Like Marc Canter Has Conference Fatigue
Looking over the list of speakers for Supernova, Marc Canter is complaining that it is the same old speakers that appear at every conference. Mr. Scoble points out that "known names sell tickets." Who’d pay money to hear a nobody…
April 7th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
I would like to hear speakers from alien disciplines giving their point of view. While I enjoy goign thru the info people put online about al these things I always come away thinking, “so what?” Preaching to the converted or convertible. Big deal. Why not preach/talk to the totally clueless? that’s what I would do anyway. because, put it this way, if a banker, a carpenter, dustbin man or whoever can’t see the value in blogs and all this guff then really, what is the point?
April 11th, 2006 at 4:12 am
It’s actually my first time at Supernova. I have my own conference in Santa Clara right before Kevin’s. I live in Amsterdam so I don’t make it to most of these conferences. So for me, it’s a rare treat to see everyone again. But I understand Marc’s annoyance - going to conferences over and over again and seeing the same speakers. I’ll stay on this side of the world for now. Marc, if you are ever in Amsterdam again, it would be nice to get together.
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April 22nd, 2006 at 12:08 pm
[…] Marc Canter “OK - I’m officially complaining now. The speaker’s list for Supernova has been officially sent out and guess what? Its all the same people - AGAIN? I mean how many times do we need to hear from Dave Sifry, Mary Hodder, Joi Ito, Dan Gillmor, Werner Vogels, Jeremy Allaire, Amy Jo Kim, Craig Newmark, Seth Goldstein, Jonathan Schwartz - and my favorite - Robert Scoble?” […]
April 22nd, 2006 at 4:36 pm
[…] I’m mildly confused by all this kerfuffle about Supernova 2006, apparently kicked off by Marc Canter’s comments on his blog. I don’t know Marc, and I do know Kevin, and I intend to be at Supernova again this year. [Disclosure: I have been on panels at Supernova before, and cannot rule out being on one again some day]. […]
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June 20th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
Mark, some conference goers say the most valuable time spent is outside of the keynotes / speeches and instead in the hall meeting other attendees. The best known speakers will bring more attendees to speak with in the halls.
Best,
Rob
June 20th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
oopps , sorry Marc on the mispelling!
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Buon luogo, congratulazioni, il mio amico!