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	<title>Comments on: Conferences, payoffs and advising</title>
	<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising</link>
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		<title>By: Noble Poker Room Online Tournaments</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-105680</link>
		<author>Noble Poker Room Online Tournaments</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 03:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Free Poker</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-87108</link>
		<author>Free Poker</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-87108</guid>
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		<title>By: bill consolidation</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-41702</link>
		<author>bill consolidation</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 02:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: odcsagurdw</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-40767</link>
		<author>odcsagurdw</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 16:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-40767</guid>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-32128</link>
		<author>Kris</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-32128</guid>
		<description>Sponsors are part of most conferences now.  It's important to keep them out of the main tent if they don't have the speakers and content to deserve the time.  Giving them a 45-minute breakout attendees can go to if they want is always fine.  

The O'Reilly conference is very inexpensive compared to others like PC Forum and I still think it is one of the best for getting some techology input and networking.  I agree they have to work harder on the next one though or they could lose their audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sponsors are part of most conferences now.  It&#8217;s important to keep them out of the main tent if they don&#8217;t have the speakers and content to deserve the time.  Giving them a 45-minute breakout attendees can go to if they want is always fine.  </p>
<p>The O&#8217;Reilly conference is very inexpensive compared to others like PC Forum and I still think it is one of the best for getting some techology input and networking.  I agree they have to work harder on the next one though or they could lose their audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruminate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Improving Etech Part I - Conference Sessions and Formats</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-32040</link>
		<author>Ruminate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Improving Etech Part I - Conference Sessions and Formats</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-32040</guid>
		<description>[...] Since O&#8217;Reilly is OK with whoring out speaking spots (not to put too fine a point on it&#8211; I do love O&#8217;Reilly and etech, but that kind of thing really bugs me), how about turning a few hours over to lightning sessions with a gong-show style audience-voting mechanism? In fact, this would be preferred for most vendor presentations if I had my way. And, clearly, anyone who was paid for (or rewarded with) a speaking spot should be clearly identified in the program just as vendors and services already are. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Since O&#8217;Reilly is OK with whoring out speaking spots (not to put too fine a point on it&#8211; I do love O&#8217;Reilly and etech, but that kind of thing really bugs me), how about turning a few hours over to lightning sessions with a gong-show style audience-voting mechanism? In fact, this would be preferred for most vendor presentations if I had my way. And, clearly, anyone who was paid for (or rewarded with) a speaking spot should be clearly identified in the program just as vendors and services already are. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Coolio - I get visited by Joel Spolsky and he leaves a comment</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30981</link>
		<author>Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Coolio - I get visited by Joel Spolsky and he leaves a comment</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30981</guid>
		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s the evidence that Joel was here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Here&#8217;s the evidence that Joel was here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Geodog</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30970</link>
		<author>Geodog</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30970</guid>
		<description>See you there, Marc. You know you'll be there :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See you there, Marc. You know you&#8217;ll be there <img src='http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Joel Spolsky</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30967</link>
		<author>Joel Spolsky</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30967</guid>
		<description>Well, I must be ripping them off, because I'm giving a keynote and I didn't pay anything.

Also -- tickets are $1000, not $2500.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I must be ripping them off, because I&#8217;m giving a keynote and I didn&#8217;t pay anything.</p>
<p>Also &#8212; tickets are $1000, not $2500.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Trachtenberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30966</link>
		<author>Adam Trachtenberg</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2006/02/conferences-payoffs-and-advising#comment-30966</guid>
		<description>Huh? eTech tickets are $1095, assuming you don't qualify for one of O'Reilly's many discounts. If you have 3 people from your company, that's 10%, but you can get discounts up to 65%. So, I don't think it's a smart idea to sponsor just to get a deal on tickets.

There are a lot of people doing interesting things who speak because they're doing interesting things. There are also some larger companies that pay to speak, but all those talks are in the "Products and Services" (i.e. sponsor) track. So, attendees can clearly opt-out of these sessions if they don't think they're going to be interesting.

However, if you're going to pay five figures to market to this audience, you're not very smart if you give a boring sales pitch. What you really need to do is show something of interest, or you're wasting your money. And I say this as someone who convinced my company, eBay, to sponsor eTech.

Now, you can quibble about whether O'Reilly should try and make money on their conferences or if they should act as a non-profit, but the fact of the matter is that they're a business and conferences of this size (1000-1500 people) are surprisingly expensive.

At the end of the day, if people don't want to come, they don't want to come, and O'Reilly will need to shift the conference to an alternative model. Unless, of course, peoples' clients force them to come. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? eTech tickets are $1095, assuming you don&#8217;t qualify for one of O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s many discounts. If you have 3 people from your company, that&#8217;s 10%, but you can get discounts up to 65%. So, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a smart idea to sponsor just to get a deal on tickets.</p>
<p>There are a lot of people doing interesting things who speak because they&#8217;re doing interesting things. There are also some larger companies that pay to speak, but all those talks are in the &#8220;Products and Services&#8221; (i.e. sponsor) track. So, attendees can clearly opt-out of these sessions if they don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re going to be interesting.</p>
<p>However, if you&#8217;re going to pay five figures to market to this audience, you&#8217;re not very smart if you give a boring sales pitch. What you really need to do is show something of interest, or you&#8217;re wasting your money. And I say this as someone who convinced my company, eBay, to sponsor eTech.</p>
<p>Now, you can quibble about whether O&#8217;Reilly should try and make money on their conferences or if they should act as a non-profit, but the fact of the matter is that they&#8217;re a business and conferences of this size (1000-1500 people) are surprisingly expensive.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, if people don&#8217;t want to come, they don&#8217;t want to come, and O&#8217;Reilly will need to shift the conference to an alternative model. Unless, of course, peoples&#8217; clients force them to come. <img src='http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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