Reaction to our StructuredBlogging.org announcement
I have to say - Greg Yardley’s reaction drew a smile.
How paranoid can one man get? Clearly Greg is right up there on the scale of martydom. God bless you dude. Whatever.
Meanwhile others seem to like it. Others were blown away by our ability to get it together in such a short period of time. So thanks go out to Salim, Gus, Jon Mandell and everyone else at PubSub.
Congrats to Phil (who is following coverage) and Kimbro and Chad. And thanks to Shelley Powers for OutputThis - as well.
There’s so much to talk about - let me also say “thank you” to Niall Kennedy as well. We ran into all sorts of challenges along the way, but in the end - truth and right triumphs!
December 15th, 2005 at 3:56 am
I have to say - Greg Yardley’s reaction drew a smile.
How paranoid can one man get? Clearly Greg is right up there on the scale of martydom. God bless you dude. Whatever.
Greg’s take is quite interesting and I’d love to know your reasons for why he is wrong? I think structured blogging makes a lot of sense but until now I never considered who it benefits financially.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:36 am
Grok-ation Complete (and it only took 2.5 years)
December 16th, 2005 at 2:04 am
Hi
Like the idea of microformats and structured blogging but shouldn’t Tantek Celik get credit for his work on Microformats - www.microformats.org
Sam
March 23rd, 2006 at 9:11 pm
[…] Alex Barnett podcast archive Here’s an OPMLish podcast for you, March 10, 2006 “It’s all about the draft OPML 2.0 spec and a few other things thrown in such as structured blogging, OPML tools, namespaces and microformats.” Guests: Joshua Porter, Adam Green and John Tropea. — Reading Lists (OPML) podcast: Danny Ayers and Adam Green, Feb 12, 2006 “Last year Dave Winer started to push the idea of Reading Lists for RSS. More recently, the idea of Dynamic Reading Lists and Feed Grazing (or Grazing Lists / Glists) has been kicking around. Its likely that Reading Lists support will become a common feature of Feed Readers / Aggregators.” Guests: Danny Ayers, Adam Green and Joshua Porter — Attention podcast : Attention with Steve Gillmor, Feb 08, 2006 “Steve has been leading Attention conversation for some time now. In 2003 he, along with David Sifry (CEO of Technorati), initiated the attention.xml efforts and has since taken on the role as president of the non-profit Attention Trust.” Guests: Steve Gillmor and Joshua Porter — MSN Search Champs podcast - Privacy conversation Jan 26 2006 “I attended the MSN Search Champs today….and what a day. Given the recent news and concerns around the data MSN Search, Yahoo and AOL provided to the government, there was a session set up where the 57 bloggers / online experts at MSN Search Champ were invited to discuss the topic with senior MSN management (Senior VP Yusuf Mehdi and VP Chris Payne).” Guests: Fred Oliveira, Dion Hinchcliffe, Joshua Porter, Chris Pirillo, Thomas Vander Wal and Brady Forrest. — Attention podcast: RSS feedreaders and aggregators Jan 22, 2006 “I asked two of the RSS industry’s leading lights to join me for a call and share their perspective on the question of where Attention is going with respect to RSS feedreaders and aggregators: Nick Bradbury creator FeedDemon, part of Newsgator (Nick also developed Homesite - sold to Macromedia - and Topstyle) and Kevin Burton of Tailrank (also co-founder Rojo).” Guests: Nick Bradbury, Joshua Porter and Kevin Burton — Structured Blogging podcast with Marc Canter and Joe Reger, Dec 16, 2006 “You might have heard of the Structured Blogging initiative announced earlier this week by Marc Canter and others…there was certainly plenty of buzz and reaction to the news, but not all the reaction was rosy.” Guests: Marc Canter and Joshua Porter — Attention and Identity with Dick Hardt and Kim Cameron, Podcast, Dec 09, 2006 “A couple of weeks ago Joshua and I had a conversation about attention data (as podcasts).In that conversation we kept touching on the topic of online identities and their management, so we thought we’d invite two pioneers of the identity space, Dick Hardt and Kim Cameron, to a podcast session and discuss how they saw the connections between these two related topics: attention and identity.” Guests: Dick Hardt, Kim Cameron and Joshua Porter — OPML = Attention Data, Attention Engines and Tailrank, Nov 12, 2005 “Although we met briefly last week, Kevin Burton and I didn’t manage to get enough time to discuss some of the things on our mind at the time, so we got a Skype call together and posted it as a podcast (.mp3, 42mb). We focused the discussion around what he calls Meme Engines and I call Attention Engines, Tailrank (Kevin’s latest project), OPML, RSS and Attention.xml” Guests: Kevin Burton — Attention podcast with Joshua Porter, Nov 26, 2006 “About OPML, Attention, and empowering people.” Guest: Joshua Porter — Web 2.0 podcast, July 01, 2006 “Richard MacManus of Read/WriteWeb and I had a Skype chat this evening and recorded the call Talked about Web 2.0, attention.xml, a bit about RSS, APIs and more.” Guest: Richard MacManus […]
March 25th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
[…] Structured Blogging podcast with Marc Canter and Joe Reger You might have heard of the Structured Blogging initiative announced earlier this week by Marc Canter and others…there was certainly plenty of buzz and reaction to the news, but not all the reaction was rosy. So Joshua Porter and I thought we’d give Marc Canter and Joe Reger a chance to respond to some of the criticisms and further explain what all this Structured Blogging was about in this podcast. (Part 1 notes and link below, Part 2 tomorrow). About our guests: Marc Canter is CEO of Broadband Mechanics. Marc co-founded MacroMind in 1984 that later became Macromedia (now merged with Adobe) and also co-founder of Ourmedia.org. Joe Reger started Reger.com a datablogging service in 2003. I was great fun to do - Marc has a ‘tell it as it is’ style - not shy in the slightest(!) - thanks to Marc and Joe for their time today. I learnt a great deal more by talking to them and challenging them with some of the quotes from posts that criticized the Structured Blogging idea. From speaking to Marc and Joe today I’d say there are some misunderstandings ‘out there’ about the SB idea, so I hope the critics at least hear these responses in the podcast and look forward to their responses. Marc Canter (pic courtesy of Robert Scoble) Structured Blogging podcast with Marc Canter and Joe Reger, Part 1 (.mp3, 37 minutes, 35mb) (note: ‘bah!…’technical challenges’ have forced me to do a fair amount of post editing - the recording got insanely out of sync, which meant everybody was fine to hear except for me, so I’ve had to delete most of what I said / asked (porbably a good thing ;-), but hopefully it all flows ok…have been v.careful to ensure the necessary editing did not change any ‘meaning’) Intro: News of Structured Blogging What are the goals of Structured Blogging? (04:45) A new era of blogging (06:20) Sébastien Paquet’s ‘Towards structured blogging’, 2003 (08:30) Anil Dash’s ‘Introducing the Microcontent Client’ 2002 (09:00) PubSub’s structured blogging initiative (10:10) Response to quote from Paul Kedrosky’s post, ‘Structured Blogging will Flop’ (13:30): “It’s the usual three reasons I trot out repeatedly to technologists with utopian visions who want to change the world on the back of altered user behavior: People are lazy People are lazy People are lazy The intelligence belongs in the network and in the algorithms” Top 10 reasons why Structured Blogging will succeed (15:10) Those damn capitalists! (20:10) 20:45 random call We’re talking about tens of millions of people. 23:00 Respond to quote from Greg Yardley’s post, ‘Structured Blogging as Web 2.0 Colonialism’ (23:45) “In my more pessimistic moments, I suspect that the omission of a payment mechanism is deliberate, and that the biggest proponents of Structured Blogging are just looking for new ways to aggregate a lot of content, use it to build up a valuable userbase, and sell, generating nothing for us-plain-folks but ‘a bigger megaphone.” Structured Blogging is a compatibility box (25:45) Microcontent description (MCD) (27:00) Standards innovation (27:50) Structured Blogging’s future: a dynamic web service: (29:00) SB Spam and the Identity Gang (32:40)Tags: structured blogging, microformats, semantic web, Blogging, Web2.0, RSS Filed Under: Web, Tech, Web 2.0 […]
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